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CORRUPTION at US Department of Justice?

Are you aware that the highest incidence of sexual crimes is instigated
by PORNOGRAPHY?

Do you know that PORNOGRAPHY is the main reasom why RAPE is commited?

Did you know that VERIO (well known Internet provider) is the main
gateway to PORNOGRAPHY in almost every computer in the US?

Did you know that hundreds of thousands of children have free access to
pornographic "news groups" controlled by VERIO?

The fact that is that a known organization self claiming as "…are a
501(c)3 non-profit organization which collaborates with other DC
organizations to provide services to inner city residents. "…….. see
following links: http://www.byteback.org, and:
http://www.byteback.org/program.html

http://www.byteback.org/program_board.html see: Michael F. Mann – Vice
President, Chairman of the Board and Sharon Kurn – Secretary, Director.

Who do you think coverts and protects whom? Is all this coincidental?

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Re: An American Holocaust: Is It Possible?

All I can say is, anyone who thinks Clinton is about to become a military
dictator

1) Has a much higher opinion of Clinton’s competence than I do;
2) Must have secret information that the military loves their President,
and all reports otherwise have been faked.

In article <19990528095715.22618.00004…@ng28.aol.com>,

NEOMASTINO <neomast…@aol.comnospams> wrote:
>http://awake-ministries.org/99.2/07.htm

>This is an interesting article about martial law, Clinton, the present and our
>future.

>"My dog has a mind of its own, my gun does not."

>"…sin crouches at your door; its desire is for you, but you must master it."
>GOD

>http://affluent.net/y2k.htm  (Emergency Survival Antibiotics)


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Retention of consensuality as a political policy in the USA

Mary Ann <mary_ann3…@my-deja.com> wrote in message

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> In article <19990518102951.16180.00001…@ng-fy1.aol.com>,
>   sgtw…@aol.com (Sgt Walt) wrote:
> > >Well the USDOJ were CERTAIN that most girls were sexually abused and
> > >they joined legal forces with them. The City of Detrait asked for the
> > >abuse to stop as well I think. Federal investigators were turned away
> > >from the prisons. Newswires and the United Nations state they were
> > >invited. Have you a newswire saying different? It is NOT my
> > >unsubstantiated allegation it is a newswire and a HUGE organisation.
> > >You have NOTHING.
> > >social@psychology

> > Father Fraud,
> > If they were so "certain"? where are the criminal prosectutions????

Well if they won’t let federal investigators in it is not a good sign. Is
it? Besides COs are confirming it. Soon hopefully christian NYSOCS folks
will also speak out against the regime of sexual terror the perverts there
are imposing on the girls.

They won’t get them in NYSOCs anyway else either the perverted bastards
there have
systems designed to ensure the sex perverts are never prosecuted. You
admitted as much yourself in your descriptions. NYSOCS systems punish the
girl right away by putting her in the hole is that not right?

It would take a miracle and God and a videotaope and even then it wouldn’t
be enough for Sgt Walt.  It is a well known fact that a NYSOCS job is a
licence to sexually abuse. The inmates are complaining of institutionalized
sexual molestation at the hands of NYSOCS personnel. There is a court case
isn’t there as well.

> > Fraternally,
> > Walt
> > Sgt.  NYSOCS

> > "If ya can’t do the time,  don’t do the crime!"
> >                                             Tony Barretta
> > There are not statutes in every state that make custodilal sexual
> abuse a crime. Illinois passed one about a year ago, but sex between a
> guard and an inmate is still not a crime if it is consensual. Given the
> imbalance of power that exisits between a guard and a prisoner, inmates
> can hardly be in the position to say no, to a guard.
> Mary Ann

It was important to retain consensuality as a notion in order to punish the
rape victims. It was not so much an oversight as a clear policy. Look at
Illinois, they ruthlessly punished the girls who were wearing chains on
their legs for a year and were sexually abused again afterwards.

Obviously Illinois belatedly delegitimised what was a *very* popular
activity but it was only a cosmetic. They sacked a few clowns and retained
the majority of the serious sex abusers.

Sexual abuse of female prisoners was not only a deeply entrenched culture
but the mechanisms were streamlined to make it easier for the sex perverts
flocking to the profession.

That is why bona fide rape camps excited no real concern in places like
Georgia. Everybody knew they were running rape camps. Santa Clara and the
District of Columbia were the same. It was no secret that they attracted sex
abusers in droves.

If they had consensuality they were much better placed to punish the naked
powerless women for taking advantage of the all powerful fully dressed male
guards. We have endemic sexual abuse because no other outcome was possible.


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Henrietta completely lost it.

John L. Wilkerson Jr. <jwilk…@netcom.com> wrote in message
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> usad…@wwa.com (Henrietta K. Thomas) writes:

> > Request for Discussion (RFD)
> > unmoderated group us.issues.censorship.henrietta

> >This is a formal Request for Discussion to create a new newsgroup in
> >the us.* hierarchy,  us.issues.censorship.henrietta.

> >Newsgroups line:
> >us.issues.censorship.henrietta The place to ‘bash’ Henrietta K. Thomas

> Another way to end this excessive posting of flames against the US
> Coordinator would be to simply cancel any articles that are off-topic in
> the groups.  The issue of cancellation of off-topic articles could be put
> to a vote in us.config.  For that matter… us.* being the first
> hierarchy to actively have a policy AGAINST off-topic posts through tthe
> whole hierarchy, the system of cancellation could probably be applied
> without any formal proposals, as the us.* posting rules indicate a third
> or subsequent off-topic post is subject to cancellation.

What? Look we were mail bombed and had forgeries and were spammed and had
bogus complaints to ISPs and it was not all kooks, well maybe they were all
kooks but Henrietta was certainly HELPING with the bogus complaints and
insane email demands which was I suppose kookish.

Look you can’t have a racist xenophobic agenda, form us.racist or
us.supremacist instead that is what Henrietta really needed.  She was
trolling on other hierarchies *and* made bogus complaints to ISPs.

The hierarchy turned into shit because it embraced racist kooks and tried to
order the europeans away. Even ethnics were told to take their nigger shit
somewhere else. To us.issues the soweto reserved for well behaved lowlifes.
Henrietta was emailing people asking them to say nice things about the USA.
I mean it was kooky stuff. She completely lost it.


Totschläger

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Re: are the street children of nyc being assasinated?

Ethnic cleansing?

rosaphil wrote:

> by a drug dealer who subcontracts to kill those kids who get in teh local
> street busines-improvement-district or community-gardens or
> block-associations’ or storeowners way?

> have "troublemakers" died mysteriously in your city?

> as they are beginning to in nyc?

> rsvp.

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- Cop-TV and Ride-alongs: Unconstitutional -

COURT RULING MAY ZAP COP-TV
                  By MICHAEL STARR and CATHY
                  BURKE

                 The future of true-crime shows – a TV news and
                 entertainment staple – is a little murkier after a
                 Supreme Court decision that cops can be sued for
                 letting the media "ride along" on searches or raids.

                 Some news groups decried yesterday’s ruling,
                 saying it would deny the public important access
                 to what cops do on the job. Others hailed the
                 court protection of individual privacy.

                 In an unanimous ruling that could put a crimp on
                 "infotainment" shows, as well as on mainstream
                 journalists, the nation’s top court said cops violate
                 privacy rights when they let the media tag along.

                 The court also said cops who carry out so-called
                 ride-alongs can be sued for violating the Fourth
                 Amendment ban on unreasonable searches and
                 seizures.

                 "It’s not going to make or break coverage of
                 stories we go after … but it is going to deny one
                 more bit of access into the real-life drama that
                 police and law-enforcement officials go through,"
                 said WCBS news director Bill Carey.

                 But Lee Levine, the lawyer representing The
                 Associated Press, ABC and other media that
                 supported cops in the two cases before the
                 Supreme Court, said there would be a high price
                 to pay for the ruling.

                 "This is going to cause law-enforcement officers to
                 be very cautious about allowing the media to ride
                 along in all sorts of circumstances," he said.

                 The court ruled on cases in Maryland and
                 Montana.

                 In the Maryland case, Montgomery County
                 sheriff’s deputies and deputy U.S. marshals took
                 along a Washington Post reporter and
                 photographer when they entered the Rockville,
                 Md., home of Charles and Geraldine Wilson. The
                 police intended to arrest the Wilsons’ fugitive son,
                 who later surrendered at his parents’ urging.
                 Photos were never published.

                 The Montana case was filed by Paul and Erma
                 Berger against federal agents and a prosecutor
                 who let a CNN reporter and camera crew
                 accompany them to the couple’s ranch.

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- Pigs Found Guilty of Unconstitutional Practices -

Police Can Be Sued for Letting Media See
                  Raids

                  By Joan Biskupic and Howard Kurtz
                  Washington Post Staff Writers
                  Tuesday, May 25, 1999; Page A08

The Supreme Court ruled unanimously yesterday that police can be sued
for letting reporters and photographers accompany them on raids of
private homes, a decision that could curtail a widespread practice of
media
"ride-alongs" with law enforcement.

The justices said that police violate the constitutional guarantee
against
unreasonable searches and seizures when they allow reporters and camera
crews to enter homes to observe law enforcement first-hand and, in some
cases, obtain the dramatic footage that is now a staple of television
news
and cop shows.

"[I]t is a violation of the Fourth Amendment for police to bring members
of
the media or other third parties into a home during the execution of a
warrant when [their] presence . . . was not in aid of the execution of
the
warrant," Rehnquist wrote regarding the case, which began when a
Washington Post reporter and photographer burst into a Rockville
couple’s
home with police early one morning in 1992.

The photographer took pictures of resident Charles Wilson, who was
dressed only in undershorts, as an officer wrestled him to the ground
and
put a gun to his head, and his wife, Geraldine, who was wearing a
negligee.
The deputies from the Montgomery County sheriff’s department and the
U.S. marshal’s office had been looking for the Wilsons’ son, Dominic,
who
was a fugitive and who, it turned out, was not in the home. The Wilsons
sued the officers under federal civil rights law.

Under the ruling, police could be forced to pay damages if they bring
members of the media into private homes. But the court said that in the
Maryland dispute and in a companion case from Montana involving CNN,
police would be protected from liability because the law was not yet
clear
when the incidents took place.

Rehnquist noted that government officials, including law enforcement
officers, can have "qualified immunity" from liability for civil damages
if they
could not have known at the time that what they were doing was wrong.
Rehnquist said that these cases met that standard, with only Justice
John
Paul Stevens dissenting from that part of the ruling.
========================================================================

BULLSHIT! – OFR –

========================================================================
Although the legal question in yesterday’s case regarded only the
officers’
liability for inviting the media along and not the media’s
responsibility for
taking part in the action, the case had drawn widespread press
attention.
Ride-alongs involve a common collaboration: the government wants
publicity for its law enforcement efforts, the press wants a first-hand
view
of an arrest.

Lee Levine, who filed a friend-of-the-court brief for 24 media
organizations, said "police and law enforcement will be very reluctant
to
invite the media to come along, whether we’re talking about a home or an
open area or riding along in a police car . . . and that will have an
unfortunate effect on news reporting."

John Langley, executive producer of the Fox program "COPS," said that
"as a so-called ride-along program, we are unaffected by the decision
because we obtain releases from everyone involved in our program.
Moreover, we do not, under any circumstances, violate rights of
privacy."
But the releases could become a moot point if police decide to bar
cameras from their raids.

"These shows are in that gray area between entertainment and
journalism,"
said Tom Rosenstiel of the Project for Excellence in Journalism.
"They’re
not actually providing news. It’s more voyeurism with a tinge of
moralism. .
. . what it’s like to ride with a cop, to be a cop."

At The Post, which did not publish the pictures taken during the
Rockville
raid, Deputy Managing Editor Milton Coleman said news-gathering
practices would be largely unaffected. "When we ride along with the
police, in most of those circumstances we’re observing the police in
public
places," he said. But the paper understands "that the individual house
is a
threshold that you don’t cross" on police raids.

A CNN spokesman said the network is studying the ruling.

Attorney Richard K. Willard, who represents the Wilsons, said he was
pleased with the ruling because "it protects people from the indignity
of
having their homes invaded by reporters." Although the Wilsons’ civil
rights
claim has been shut down, Willard noted that a separate federal tort
claim
was still pending.

The Supreme Court agreed to hear the two cases in part because federal
courts had produced contradictory rulings.

In the Maryland case, Wilson v. Layne, the 4th U.S. Circuit Court of
Appeals ruled that police did not violate the Wilsons’ rights because
past
court cases did not plainly forbid police from taking reporters with
them to
witness an arrest.

But in the Montana case, Hanlon v. Berger, which arose after federal
agents brought along a CNN crew while searching the ranch of a man
suspected of poisoning protected eagles, the 9th Circuit said "no
reasonable officer would have thought it permissible" to allow the press
to
be present.

In yesterday’s cases, the Supreme Court made clear that the Fourth
Amendment does not permit police to bring along the press or any third
party who is not part of the law enforcement mission. Rehnquist
emphasized the sanctity of the home and the residential privacy at the
core
of the Fourth Amendment, dismissing the argument that ride-alongs serve
a
public relations function and help ensure against police misconduct.

Montgomery County Sheriff Ray Kight, who was named in the Wilsons’
suit along with three of his deputies, said he was relieved by the
court’s
finding that Montgomery sheriff’s officials have immunity from the
lawsuit.

"It gives law enforcement throughout the country new guidelines where we
didn’t have any before," he said. But he added, "I think it will
definitely
have a chilling effect on press coverage" of law enforcement.

Staff writers Sharon Waxman and Katherine Shaver contributed to this
report.

                           © Copyright 1999 The Washington Post Company

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- US Racism Does Exist -

Hartford Cop Addresses Racism
                    Seeks Reform After Shooting Of Black Boy
               HARTFORD, Connecticut
               Monday, May 24,1999 – 04:37 PM ET
                                      (CBS) Instead of pointing
                                      fingers at others, some officials
                                      in Hartford, Conn., are taking a
                                      long, hard look at themselves,
                                      reports CBS News
                                      Correspondent Jeffrey
                                      Kofman.

                                      "My message is that racism
                                      does exist," says Chief of
                                      Police Joseph Croughwell.

It’s not the kind of talk you usually hear around a place like this.

"We must responsibly acknowledge what failures have
occurred in our community," says community leader Larry
Charles.

The reason for all this straight talk is a tragedy that happened
here a month ago. An unarmed 14-year-old black boy was shot
by a white police officer.

"Y’all not going to get away with this, killing my brother,"
said Aquan Salmon’s brother, Mark Barrow, after the shooting.
"Y’all not going to get away with this."

The outcry and the anger are all too familiar. But here, in one of
America’s poorest of cities, in one of its richest states, this
latest shooting has inspired a new level of candor.

"I think that was almost like
a conversion, just by looking
at some of my officers
describing how they feel,
because they feel they are
victims of racism, and I think
it woke me up," says
Croughwell.

The head of the overwhelmingly
white police force in this
overwhelmingly black and Latino city has been shaken by
reports following the shooting that senior black officers are
routinely undermined by younger white officers.

But young Aquan Salmon had a criminal record and was a
robbery suspect that night he was shot, which has raised tough
questions in the community.

"We should take the shooting as a wake-up call to our
own community to say, ‘Okay, we really need to wake up
and get involved and provide positive opportunities for
these youths to grow and learn, correct values and
principals,’" Charles says.

In this divided city, there is hope that admitting the real source
of problems is the first step toward solving them.

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Re: Assimilation II

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sidewheel <khtho…@cwix.com> wrote:

>Assimilation or Lack Thereof, Part II

>The U.S. is under attack by illegal immigrants and drugs. Although it has
>oceans to the east and west, they do not prevent smuggling and incursions of
>immigrants from across those seas. Our north and south borders are porous to
>illegals and drug smugglers. It is a dereliction of internal security not to
>stem illegal immigration and foolish not to halt legal immigration for all
>time. The U.S. is filled to capacity with people as are the habitable areas
>of the Earth. There is no more livable, open space to which people under
>population pressure can migrate. That pressure causes poverty, violence,
>crime and alienation between ethnic groups: drugs and inflowing firearms
>fuel the violence and crime and promote the antagonisms. The catalog and
>cafeteria of weapons in the U.S. is increasing at an alarming rate: they are
>available off-the-shelf to anyone deciding he or she wants to vent their
>societal rage of population pressure or express their drug induced illusion
>of personal invincibility and grandeur in violence..

>We are under assault by foreign arms exporters and from within by arms
>importers and the NRA. Assault rifles flood into the U.S. from China,
>Russia, Bulgaria, Hungary, Egypt and the Czech Republic: many of them new.
>These weapons have been fitted with thumb-hole stocks to evade the ban that
>identifies an assault rifle as having a pistol grip that projects
>free-standing below the receiver of the weapon. Obsolete military, bolt
>action rifles pour into the country from govern ment warehouses in Russia,
>France, Chile, Argentina, Brazil, Sweden, Austria, Germany, India, England,
>Finland and Poland.

>For 180 years immigration was needed to man production enterprises and
>create a domestic market for their products. Germans, Poles, Italians,
>Czechs and the Irish streamed into the nation and for the most part were
>integrated socially and economically over time. Blacks were imported as
>slaves and were segregated until after WW II, but they are still not
>assimilated and for a large part have remained disadvantaged. Chinese were
>imported for menial labor in logging camps and to build western railroads.
>Most have been integrated but not assimilated. The immigration of orientals
>or any other ethnicities for such jobs is no longer required. Why do we
>still admit them legally and allow those that are smuggled to stay?

>For 200 years we have prided ourselves on a melting pot which has not done
>much melting.  Many constituencies and political organizations are currently
>extolling our diversity, lauding its existence as evidence of our "working
>together" and praising its virtues which are obscure or non-existent. This
>current paroxysm of appreciating and even promoting diversity is after the
>fact of diversity which has been thrust upon us increasingly since the end
>of WW II and is continuing to be forced upon us by immigration that has a
>progression that is at least linear and may be arithmetic or even
>exponential. It is not diversity or ethnicities that create a productive
>society: it is individuals working in community in production   systems for
>their aggregate self- interest.


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American Sexism

   That’s it!
                                             I’ve had it with Jerry
Springer’s sexistic chauvinistic attitude. "Don’t talk to a
woman like that" he said to a man – one the rare ones who almost
matched the shouting bitches. Show a little gender equality attitude,
Jerry. Shouting bitches are constantly abusing their verbal superiority
in a psychic violence against men. And using their physical "license to
hit" as well to give lots of slap in the face. But if the men are even
trying to defend themselves Jerry will be there: "You can never ever
lay a hand on a woman"
                     Come on, Jerry. Violence is always humiliating and
bad whether it is men or women who suffers it. But the women at the
show are grossly abusing the Jerry-opinion:

                   Verbal, mental and physical violence is okay if
it’s just women who hurt men.But the opposite, even as defence, is a
criminal act.                                  

                    And the real fun is that it is not only a Jerry
Springer attitude but an attitude in the whole society. An attitude
suppresing men and keeping women in an immature kid-like role where you
can slap and hit if you get upset.

                   This immature, sexistic and female-chauvinistic
attitude makes me puke.

                                       mjh

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