Let the whole world know that we shall never accept that the tragedy of Andalusia would be
repeated in Palestine.  We cannot accept that Palestine will become Jewish.

And with regard to you, Muslims, this is the day of question. This is a new (inaudible)
against you, all against the Muslims and Medina.  So be like the followers of the prophet,
peace be upon him, and all countrymen, lovers of God and the prophet within, and a new
battle, great battle, similar to the great battles of Islam, like the conqueror of
Jerusalem.  So, hurry up to the dignity of life and the eternity of death.

Thanks to God, he who God guides will never lose.  And I believe that there’s only one
God.  And I declare I believe there’s no prophet but Hammed (ph).

This is America, God has sent one of the attacks by God and has attacked one of its best
buildings.  And this is America filled with fear from the north, south, east and west,
thank God.

And what America is facing today is something very little of what we have tasted for
decades.  Our nation, since nearly 80 years is tasting this humility.  Sons are killed,
and nobody answers the call.

And when God has guided a bunch of Muslims to be at the forefront and destroyed America, a
big destruction, I wish God would lift their position.

And when those people have defended and retaliated to what their brothers and sisters have
suffered in Palestine and Lebanon, the whole world has been shouting.

And there are civilians, innocent children being killed every day in Iraq without any
guilt, and we never hear anybody. We never hear any (inaudible) from the clergymen of the
government (ph).

And every day we see the Israeli tanks going to Jenin, Ramallah, Beit Jalla and other
lands of Islam.  And, no, we never hear anybody objecting to that.

So when the swords came after eight years to America, then the whole world has been crying
for those criminals who attacked.  This is the least which could be said about them.  They
are people.  They supported the murder against the victim, so God has given them back what
they deserve.

I say the matter is very clear, so every Muslim after this, and after the officials in
America, starting with the head of the infidels, Bush.  And they came out with their men
and equipment and they even encouraged even countries claiming to be Muslims against us.
So, we run with our religion.  They came out to fight Islam with the name of fighting
terrorism.

People – event of the world – in Japan, hundreds of thousands of people got killed.  This
is not a war crime.  Or in Iraq, what our – who are being killed in Iraq.  This is not a
crime.  And those, when they were attacked in my Nairobi, and Dar Es Salaam, Afghanistan,
and Sudan were attacked.

I say these events have split the whole world into two camps: the camp of belief and the
disbelief.  So every Muslim shall take — shall support his religion.

And now with the winds of change has blown up now, has come to the Arabian Peninsula.

And to America, I stay to it and to its people this:  I swear by God the Great, America
will never dream nor those who live in America will never taste security and safety unless
we feel security and safety in our land and in Palestine.

–

"Indeed, I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just"
                       - Thomas Jefferson Notes from Virginia

I think it was sperm build up from sucking too much cock!

On Tue, 09 Oct 2001 04:57:24 GMT, "Vincent Diaz" <vld…@san.rr.com>
wrote:

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>MSNBC reported that Rush’s doctors gave him a theory of why he has suddenly
>developed deafness, however he preferred to keep it confidential for now.

>On a guess that his heavy cigar smoking habit may have caused it I ran a
>simple search at Goggle. I came up with several intriguing references among
>them were:

>"Though the exact cause-and-effect relationship remains undetermined, some
>earlier studies have speculated that cigarette smoke has a toxic effect on
>cells in the inner ear that are important to hearing, the report from the
>University of Wisconsin said.

>The complete reference is at: http://snadi.tky.hut.fi/98103/Researcher.html

>What do you think?

The following was found at www.usatoday.com , do take notice of the
"senior U.S. ….. officials" part. This is your republiCUNT
administration that they are reffering to dittoheads… er I mean
idiotheads. So glad Rash ranted about how inappropriate it was on
9/29/01.

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By Jack Kelley, USA TODAY

PESHAWAR, Pakistan

       Elite troops from U.S. special operations forces have been
inside Afghanistan the past 2 weeks looking for Osama bin Laden, but
they’re having difficulty locating him and are asking other nations
for additional intelligence help, senior U.S. and Pakistani officials
have confirmed privately.
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SAN FRANCISCO – Some 5000-7000 people rallied here on September 29 to
protest the US war drive in response to the September 11 terror
attack that levelled the World Trade Center in New York City and
badly damaged the Pentagon.

Demonstrators expressed great pain for the loss of lives caused by
the tragic events but also warned against taking revenge on civilians
in other countries. Pakistani writer Zulfikhar Ahmad told the rally:
"I am very afraid that there is a very big tragedy in the making and
it will be the biggest dishonour to the memory of 6000 innocent
people who have died."

The rally and speakers included a multi-generational mix of the Bay
Area. There were high school and college students, children, airline
workers, immigrants, service workers and artists and musicians. There
were immigrants from the Middle East, Latin America and Europe.

Some demonstrators had marched against the Vietnam War. Others
rallied against the Persian Gulf War. Many became active against
globalisation after the Seattle protests. For others this was their
first peace rally.

Groups protesting the annual meeting of the World Bank and the
International Monetary Fund initiated the rallies. After the meetings
were called off after the September 11 attacks, many liberal groups
pulled out.

With polls supporting Bush’s war drive running over 90% and
conservatives and liberals attempting to stifle all criticism of the
government under the slogan of "national unity" being waged by
supporters of revenge, the size of the rallies and lack of
counter-demonstrations was significant.

I heard only one loud supporter of the Bush war campaign shout at the
marches as we went through the Mission District to show solidarity
with Arab store owners who have faced harassment and violence. One of
the demands of the protests was to defend the civil rights of Arab,
Muslim and South Asian communities.

A teach-in is planned for October 13 and another rally on October 20.

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Channel 10 news, Sydney,  have just shown video of the fire-bombing of
half a dozen churches in the south-western Sydney area which has a high
Arabic population.

Read paint messages such as ‘Long Live bin Laden’ and ‘Kill All
Christians and Jews’ were painted on some of the buildings.

Last week when there was fear that mosques in the area would be targeted
police were rushed in to provide guards for them.  Will police now be
provided for the churches? Or is that protection only provided to
noisy minorities?

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/anthrax.html

A quick note about Anthrax
In the effort by the American media to keep the American people in such a
high state of terror that they cannot objectivily think about what is going
on, the threat of another terror attack using Anthrax is being constantly
waved about the TV screens, indeed has been a staple of media fear-
mongering for some years now.

But contrary to the popular myth, Anthrax is not a good terror weapon at
all. It was developed by the United States (which still holds the world’s
largest stockpiles of weapons-grade Anthrax) as a battlefield weapon,
because there is no possability of runaway infection.

Anthrax has no secondary communicability. People who have the desease
cannot give it to others around them. One must be directly exposed to the
spores to get the desease. This makes Anthrax a great weapon to use to
cripple an opposing army, because ONLY that army thus sprayed will get sick
(tying up additional logistical and medical resources to keep them from
dying). To use Anthrax effectively requires large numbers of delivery
systems, something a terrorist would not have available.

Real bio-terror (as opposed to a staged fake incident) requires a pathogen
with a high secondary communicability, so that a target group infected with
it proceeds to infect more people around them, spreading the desease
without additional effort on the part of the terrorists.

Therefore, Anthrax is a poor choce for real terrorists to use, but a grat
choice for someone planning to stage a phony terror event.

One more point; our armed forces have been given mandatory immuniizations
against Anthrax. Given that there are dozens of alternative pathogens which
coukd be used by terrorists, I wonder how our government is so certain
which one will be used. And won’t it be lucky when the terrorists use the
one infectious agent for which our military is already immune?

Historical quotes

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—–
" Great military peoples have conquered their known world time and time
again through the centuries, only to die out in the inevitable ashes of
their fire. Well over two thousand years ago, the Chinese philospher,
Laotzu, concluded that:
"Weapons often turn upon the wielder,
An army’s harvest is a waste of thorns."

We may have to resort to arms in the future, as we have in the past. We may
have to use them to prevent atomic war from being launched against us. But
let us have the wisdom to realize that the use of force is a sign of
weakness on a higher plane, and that a policy based primarily on recourse
to arms will sooner or later fail." — Charles Lindburgh, Of Flight and
Life, 1948

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—–

"Today American’s would be outraged if U.N. troops entered Los Angeles to
restore order; tomorrow they will be grateful. This is especially true if
they were told there was an outside threat from beyond, whether real or
promulgated, that threatened our very existence. It is then that all
peoples of the world will plead with world leaders to deliver them from
this evil. The one thing every man fears is the unknown. When presented
with this scenario, individual rights will be willingly relinquished for
the guarantee of their well being granted to them by their world
government."
— Henry Kissinger speaking at Evian, France, May 21, 1992 Bilderburgers
meeting. Unbeknownst to Kissinger, his speech was taped by a Swiss delegate
to the meeting.

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—–

"We tell the people what they need to know, what they want to know."
— Frank Sesno, CNN "News"

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—–

"We need a common enemy to unite us."
— Condolezza Rice, March 2000

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—–

"Our government has kept us in a perpetual state of fear-kept us in a
continuous stampede of patriotic fervor-with the cry of grave national
emergency. Always there has been some terrible evil at home or some
monstrous foreign power that was going to gobble us up if we did not
blindly rally behind it …"
— General Douglas MacArthur, 1957

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—–

"I am strongly in favor of using poisoned gas against uncivilized tribes.
The moral effect should be good…and it would spread a lively terror…. "
— Winston Churchill commenting on the British use of poison gas against
the Iraqis after World War I

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—–

"… somehow we find it hard to sell our values, namely that the rich
should plunder the poor."
— former Secretary of State John Foster Dulles

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—–

"The crimes of the U.S. throughout the world have been systematic,
constant, clinical, remorseless, and fully documented but nobody talks
about them. "
— Harold Pinter

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—–

"If there has to be a blood-bath [of our own youth], let’s get it over
with."
— Ronald Reagan, Governor of California during the Vietnam War

—————————————————————————
—–

"History is the history of war — of leaders of countries finding reasons
and rationals to send the young people off to fight."
— John Stockwell, former CIA official and author

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—–

"We [the U.S.] has over 200 incidents in which we have put our troops into
other countries to force them to our will."
— John Stockwell, former CIA official and author

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—–

"Why of course the people don’t want war. Why should some poor slob on a
farm want to risk his life in a war when the best he can get out of it is
to come back to his farm in one piece? Naturally, the common people don’t
want war: neither in Russia, nor in England, nor for that matter in
Germany. That is understood. But after all it is the leaders of the country
who determine the policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the
people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a
parliament, or a communist dictatorship … Voice or no voice, the people
can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you
have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the
pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger."
— Leading Nazi leader, Hermann Goering, at the Nuremberg Trials before he
was sentenced to death

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—–

"Just who are these goddamn reds, anyway? A goddamn red is anyone who wants
30 cents when I am paying 25."
— John Steinbeck, "The Grapes of Wrath"

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—–

"The American oligarchy increasingly has less in common with the American
people than it does with the equivalent oligarchies in Germany or Mexico or
Japan."
— Lewis Lapham, editor of Harpers

—————————————————————————
—–

"If the world operates as one big market, every employee will compete with
every person anywhere in the world who is capable of doing the same job.
There are lots of them and many of them are hungry."
— Andrew Grove, president of Intel Corp., in his book "High Output
Management"

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—–

"[Nationalism is] a set of beliefs taught to each generation in which the
Motherland or the Fatherland is an object of veneration and becomes a
burning cause for which one becomes willing to kill the children of other
Motherlands or Fatherlands."
— Howard Zinn, historian

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—–

"The nationalist not only does not disapprove of atrocities committed by
his own side, but he has a remarkable capacity for not even hearing about
them."
— George Orwell, writer

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—–

"The agony and moral anguish that ought to accompany an act of mass killing
— yes, even in a war [the Gulf War against Iraq in 1991]– seemed wholly
absent from American culture."
— Ruth Rosen, history professor

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—–

"Indonesia plays a key role in maintaining regional stablity. It is a
leader in ASEAN and is a fundimental force for peace and properity … We
did not have a discussion about East Timor."
— Secretary of Defense William Cohen at a press conference, January 1998,
after meeting with Indonesian President Suharto who is responsible for the
deaths of 500,00 – 1,000,000 following his US-sanctioned coup against
Indonesian President Sukarno in 1965, and the deaths of 200,000 during
Indonesia’s US-sanctioned invasion and occupation of East Timor in 1975

—————————————————————————
—–

" Scare the hell out of the American people."
— Senator Arthur Vandenburg, telling President Truman what the he needed
to do in order to to tax the American people to pay for the weapons and
covert activities of the US National Security State that was being planned,
to destroy the Russian Communist State

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—–

" The men who possess real power in this country have no intention of
ending the cold war."
— Albert Einstein

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—–

" No triumph of peace can equal the armed triumph of war." "In strict
confidence …I should welcome almost any war, for I think this country
needs one."
— Theodore Roosevelt

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—–

" There is no regime to reactionary for us provided it stands in Russia’s
expansionist path. There is no country too remote to serve as the scene of
a contest which may widen until it becomes a world war."
— Henry Wallace, Vice-President under Franklin Roosevelt 1941-1945

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—–

" The only way to abolish war is to make peace heroic."
— John Dewey

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—–

" War is a quarrel between two thieves too cowardly to fight their own
battle; therefore they take boys from one village and another village,
stick them into uniforms, equip them with guns, and let them loose like
wild beasts against each other."
— Thomas Carlyle

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—–

" Any dictator would admire the uniformity and obedience of the (U.S.)
media."
— Noam Chomsky

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—–

"The U.S. will not permit constructive programs in its own domains, so it
must ensure that they are destroyed elsewhere to terminate " the threat of
a good example".
— Noam Chomsky

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—–

"Patriotism is the last resort of scoundrels."
— Samuel Johnson

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—–

"Patriotism is the principle that will justify the training of wholesale
murderers."
— Leo Tolstoy
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Let’s say the Average American makes a family income of $25,000.  Let’s say
that it costs around $400 for rent,  $400 for food,  $200 for utilities,
$200 for cable, water, phone etc.,  $300 for car and ins.,  That is $18,000.
If payroll tax is around $1,500 and FICA is $2,000,  state and local are
about $500.  Then you have about $60 a week for entertainment or anything
else.  If you make $30,000  your bills are the same and your tax is $2,250
and FICA is $2,400,  state and local are $600.  So you then have about $130
per week for everything else.  At $50,000 you have tax of around $6,500,
FICA of $4,000 state and local tax of around$1,500 that leaves you with
around $400 per week for other things.

When you go to a flat tax you would be increasing the burden on the first
two income levels and decreasing it on the $50,000 earner.  It is better to
have the lower tax on the ones near the bottom to make it easier to live,
and also easier to make their way up the ladder if possible.  So what is
wrong with the above?  And if there were a tax on income over $250,000 of
50% instead of 39.6%,  what would be the problem there?  And income over $5
million could be at 60% while the income over $10 million could be at 70%.
Those rates are only on the amount over that number.  This type of taxation
that we had prior to Reagan,  kept people from being so greedy.  If you
already make $10 million you may not be trying to beat someone out of a few
bucks that is lower on the income level.  If this is also applied to
business,  it gives the small business a better playing field without
concern as much about monopolies.  Businesses have to plan for the long term
instead of just one year to make it all.  This means that they have to take
better care with their employees and their communities.  So what is the
problem with that.  That is what made America great.

spamb…@petra.dyndns.org (Cameron L. Spitzer) wrote in message
<news:slrn9rki84.dau.spambait@truffula.sj.ca.us>…

> Let me know if he says something interesting.

Please, folks, just leave Cameron in the dark. Don’t bother him with
this stuff that doesn’t interest him.

– Clamoring Spitfire <http://www.rev.net/people/aloe/collapse>

"Tom Cline" <T…@hotmale.com> wrote in message

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> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A26290-2001Sep26.html

>  Pacifist Claptrap

Stop gonorrhea! Wear a claptrap!

> By Michael Kelly
> Wednesday, September 26, 2001; Page A25
> Pacifists are not serious people,

So what? Lincoln’s sense of humor was legendary.

> and their arguments are not being taken seriously at the moment.

Time will prove us right. We can wait.

> Second, it is worth it because the reactionary left-liberal crowd in America
> and in Europe

How do they differ from radical left-liberals?

> has already staked out its ground here: What happened to
> America is America’s fault,

Hogwash. It’s the fault of those European immigrants who’ve been
coming here for 500 years.

> Third, it
> is worth it because the American foreign policy establishment has all the
> heart for war of a titmouse, and not one of your braver titmice. The first
> faint, let-us-be-reasonable bleats can even now be heard:

Titmice are birds, not sheep.

> Yes, we must do
> something, but is an escalation of aggression really the right thing?

I’m not worried about aggression, only violence. Salesmen I can
handle.

> But in the situation where one’s nation has been attacked — a
> situation such as we are now in — pacifism is, inescapably and profoundly,
> immoral. Indeed, in the case of this specific situation, pacifism is on the
> side of the murderers, and it is on the side of letting them murder again.

You mean those 19 highjackers will highjack again?

> In 1942 George Orwell wrote this, in Partisan Review, of Great Britain’s
> pacifists:

> "Pacifism is objectively pro-Fascist. This is elementary common sense.

So the pacifist Germans were pro-fascist?

> If
> you hamper the war effort of one side you automatically help out that of the
> other.

Not at all. If Austria had refused to take arms in 1914, Serbia would
not have doubled the territory under its control.

> Nor is there any real way of remaining outside such a war as the
> present one. In practice, ‘he that is not with me is against me.’ "

So the Arabs who don’t take arms to fight alongside the US are against
us?

> England’s pacifists howled, but Orwell’s logic was implacable. The Nazis
> wished the British to not fight. If the British did not fight, the Nazis
> would conquer Britain.

Not quite. They might occupy it, but they would have trouble
conquering it.

> The British pacifists also wished the British to not
> fight. The British pacifists, therefore, were on the side of a Nazi victory
> over Britain. They were objectively pro-Fascist.

What do you call Britons who wanted to bring both Germany and Britain
to defeat?

On which side were the Britons who joined the German army rather than
remain neutral? Were they identical to the pacifists?

> If the Americans do not fight,
> the terrorists will attack America again.

How do you know that? How do you know they won’t attack if the
Americans fight?

> And now we know such attacks can
> kill many thousands of Americans.

Only if they gather in buildings from which they cannot easily escape.

> The American pacifists, therefore, are on
> the side of future mass murders of Americans. They are objectively
> pro-terrorist.

On which side are the Americans who openly espouse terrorism?

> There is no way out of this reasoning.

Not even suicide? Don’t underestimate it.

> No honest person can pretend that the
> groups that attacked America will, if let alone, not attack again.

Of course, honest people cannot pretend.

> As President Bush said of nations: A war has been declared; you are either
> on one side or another.

So he’s decided to be on a different side from me?

> You are either for doing what is necessary to
> capture or kill those who control and fund and harbor the terrorists, or you
> are for not doing this.

What about people who want to capture those who control but not kill
those fund? What about people who want to kill those who fund but not
capture those who control? What about people who want to capture those
who fund but not kill those who control? What about people who want to
kill those who control but not capture those who fund? What about
those who want to capture those who kill but not control those who
fund? What about those who want to control those who kill but not fund
those who capture? What about . . .

[continued in the afterlife]

> If you are for not doing this, you are for allowing
> the terrorists to continue their attacks on America. You are saying, in
> fact: I believe that it is better to allow more Americans — perhaps a great
> many more — to be murdered than to capture or kill the murderers.

So I suppose we have to hunt down and kill those 19 murderers who
hijacked those planes.

> That is the pacifists’ position, and it is evil.

Hey, if we pacifists are so evil, why don’t you come after us instead
of the Taliban?

– High Jack <http://www.rev.net/people/aloe/ajivika>