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Mr Babyhose wrote:
> Deborah <d_mcp…@sunshine.net> wrote in
> <374d05c7.36546…@news.uniserve.com>:
> >Who decides what is "ethnic cleansing"? Is this ethnic cleansing?
> >Are you certain?
> >I am not. I am prepared to recognize the enormous complexity of the
> >Kosovo vs Serbia situation, and how different these cultures are from
> >mine, and how difficult it is, really, for someone from my culture to
> >understand as they do… what is really going down in their land.
> >Deborah
> I think mass murder and clearing half a million people out of their homes
> is certainly something. That is what the Serbs do. They are supremacists.
> It worked the other way against the Armenians. It is a centuries old thing.
> Kosovo is a supremacist icon to them. It is part of their birth as an
> invincible enduring people who will transcend difficulty. It was their
> rebirth if you like. It is supremacism and symbolism. They are genociding a
> race for folklore.
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> catho…@justinian.idps.co.uk
So they are genetically mutated to be bigots and "white supremacist" – what’s the matter the "genocide" argument showing some holes? How many Kossovars have to be killed for it to be genocide? How many killed make it a civil war? How many do we have to kill for them to call us genocidal maniacs?
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Why don’t the gun grabbers go to Kossovo to live, I’m told there’s lots of empty land and
only the GOVERNMENT has guns – so you’ll be real safe.
http://rosie.acmecity.com/flower/281
pinnocchio the pious <executive_ord…@shadow.gov> wrote in
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>Mr Babyhose wrote:
>> Deborah <d_mcp…@sunshine.net> wrote in
>> <374d05c7.36546…@news.uniserve.com>:
>> >Who decides what is "ethnic cleansing"? Is this ethnic cleansing?
>> >Are you certain?
>> >I am not. I am prepared to recognize the enormous complexity of the
>> >Kosovo vs Serbia situation, and how different these cultures are from
>> >mine, and how difficult it is, really, for someone from my culture to
>> >understand as they do… what is really going down in their land.
>> >Deborah
>> I think mass murder and clearing half a million people out of their homes
>> is certainly something. That is what the Serbs do. They are supremacists.
>> It worked the other way against the Armenians. It is a centuries old thing.
>> Kosovo is a supremacist icon to them. It is part of their birth as an
>> invincible enduring people who will transcend difficulty. It was their
>> rebirth if you like. It is supremacism and symbolism. They are genociding a
>> race for folklore.
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>> catho…@justinian.idps.co.uk
>So they are genetically mutated to be bigots and "white supremacist" – what’s
the matter the "genocide" argument showing some holes? How many Kossovars
have to be killed for it to be genocide? How many killed make it a civil war?
How many do we have to kill for them to call us genocidal maniacs?
That is an interesting theory but I had presumed that supremacism was not a
genetic quality. I never used the word "white" either. That is two contrivances
of yours central to a false argument that might be better ignored but for the
fact I’ve already more or less answered it.
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catho…@justinian.idps.co.uk
Thank you for very good sense! Pls continue posting here, killfiling as
necessary.
On Sun, 30 May 1999 17:16:29 GMT, Reluctant Stereotype
<catho…@justinian.idps.co.uk> wrote:
>pinnocchio the pious <executive_ord…@shadow.gov> wrote in
><3751615E.12266…@whorehouse.gov>:
>>Mr Babyhose wrote:
>>> Deborah <d_mcp…@sunshine.net> wrote in
>>> <374d05c7.36546…@news.uniserve.com>:
>>> >Who decides what is "ethnic cleansing"? Is this ethnic cleansing?
>>> >Are you certain?
‘Ethnic clensing’ is a convenient term, shorter than saying something like
"Sending people out of the coutnry after bulldozong their houses and
destroyign their papers and property recoreds so they won’t want to come
back, and executing quite a few of them along the way."
It is a referential term. It refers to this sort of conduct.
Origianlly it denoted a purpose, but that meaning is getting left behind.
Existence precedes essence. We need a term to refer to what is happening,
regardless of why. ‘Ethnic clensing’ is being used to mean this sort of
conduct.
/snip/
>>> I think mass murder and clearing half a million people out of their homes
>>> is certainly something.
Yes. Bravo for a clear statement. More than half a million, tho.
>>>That is what the Serbs do.
I wish you had said "what Milosevic’s troops do." Some Serbs, probably
most, would be just as horrified as we if they knew. As Clinton says, our
quarrel is not with the Serb people.
>>>They are supremacists.
>>> It worked the other way against the Armenians.
???
>>> It is a centuries old thing.
>>> Kosovo is a supremacist icon to them. It is part of their birth as an
>>> invincible enduring people who will transcend difficulty. It was their
>>> rebirth if you like. It is supremacism and symbolism. They are genociding a
>>> race for folklore.
>>> catho…@justinian.idps.co.uk
This makes a lot of sense, tho I’m sure it applies to only a few Serbs.
Might say the same thing about various crusades to ‘reclaim’ Jerusalem as
well.
Don’t suppose the Palestinians after WWII were genocided, but otherwise can
they quote you?
/snip felix rant/
>That is an interesting theory but I had presumed that supremacism was not a
>genetic quality. I never used the word "white" either. That is two contrivances
>of yours central to a false argument that might be better ignored but for the
>fact I’ve already more or less answered it.
Nice.
Cheers,
Bredon
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> Thank you for very good sense! Pls continue posting here, killfiling as
> necessary.
> On Sun, 30 May 1999 17:16:29 GMT, Reluctant Stereotype
> <catho…@justinian.idps.co.uk> wrote:
> >pinnocchio the pious <executive_ord…@shadow.gov> wrote in
> ><3751615E.12266…@whorehouse.gov>:
> >>Mr Babyhose wrote:
> >>> Deborah <d_mcp…@sunshine.net> wrote in
> >>> <374d05c7.36546…@news.uniserve.com>:
> >>> >Who decides what is "ethnic cleansing"? Is this ethnic cleansing?
> >>> >Are you certain?
> ‘Ethnic clensing’ is a convenient term, shorter than saying something like
> "Sending people out of the coutnry after bulldozong their houses and
> destroyign their papers and property recoreds so they won’t want to come
> back, and executing quite a few of them along the way."
> It is a referential term. It refers to this sort of conduct.
> Origianlly it denoted a purpose, but that meaning is getting left behind.
> Existence precedes essence. We need a term to refer to what is happening,
> regardless of why. ‘Ethnic clensing’ is being used to mean this sort of
> conduct.
> /snip/
> >>> I think mass murder and clearing half a million people out of their homes
> >>> is certainly something.
> Yes. Bravo for a clear statement. More than half a million, tho.
> >>>That is what the Serbs do.
> I wish you had said "what Milosevic’s troops do." Some Serbs, probably
> most, would be just as horrified as we if they knew. As Clinton says, our
> quarrel is not with the Serb people.
> >>>They are supremacists.
> >>> It worked the other way against the Armenians.
Just thought I would let you know the Washington Post link on your page
has expired..