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What Military Retirement ?

Dan Pettigrew LCDR, SC, USN, RETIRED
National Legislative Director
USDR

Web page  www.usdr.org

Two U.S. soldiers are riding in a Humvee.  They are in an accident and
both
sustain identical injuries.  Both are now eligible to receive disability

compensation from the Department of Veterans Affairs.  One soldier
leaves
the service and takes a federal job.  The entire time he works, he
receives
his full government salary and his VA disability payment.  When he
retires,
he receives his full federal retirement benefits ire addition to his
full VA
disability compensation payment.  But the other soldier, the one who
decided
to serve 20 more years in the military, doesn’t fare so well.  He can’t
receive his VA disability compensation until he retires from the
military,
and then his earned retirement pay will be reduced dollar for dollar by
the
amount of his VA disability payment.  Moreover, if his disability pay is

more than his military pension, he gets no retirement pay.  Zero.
Zilch.  A
fine thank you for two decades of honorable service.  Doesn’t sound
fair,
does it?  Unfortunately, that’s the way it is for our service members
and
veterans.  It’s a situation that needs to be corrected. The issue is
called
"concurrent receipt." Simply put, it’s paying veterans their VA
disability
payments without cutting into earned retirement benefits.  Military
retirement pay is a benefit for longevity of honorable military
service.  VA
service-connected disability compensation is for medical conditions
incur-red or aggravated while on active duty.  Benefits and compensation

are
separate issues and should not be linked in any way.  A veteran can
receive
disability compensation without any offsets, reductions or limits while
collecting unemployment compensation in Social Security, federal
civil-service pay or pay from a private-sector job.  Also free of
offsets
are federal civil-service retirement (including disability retirement),
retirement pension from non-federal jobs, or federal workers
compensation
(benefits for work-caused disability or illness provided under the
Federal
Employees’ Compensation Act).  Only military retired pay is reduced
dollar
for dollar by VA disability compensation.
Other federal employees can receive retirement benefits and VA
disability
payments without offsets.  In the past decade, many veterans’ programs
have
been pared to the bone to help balance the budget.  With the current
national debate over how to handle the sizeable budget surplus, The
American
Legion believes the time has come for retirees to receive full
compensation
for both their honorable military service and their service-connected
debilitating injuries or illnesses.  Fairness demands it.
But action by Congress in May casts into doubt the fate of concurrent
receipt any time soon for America’s military men and women.  Agreeing
with a
provision of House Concurrent Resolution 83 – introduced by Rep. William

"Mac" Thornberry, R-Texas – the House and Senate voted to send
concurrent
receipt to the Department of Defense for further study.  Ironically,
Thornberry is a co-sponsor of a House resolution seeking concurrent
receipt.
Existing law dishonors service-connected disability by penalizing a
service
member’s longevity.  The only appropriate action is one that will
provide
funding to end this madness.  What makes the most recent action by
Congress
perplexing is that a majority of congressional members – 65 senators and

335
representatives – are co-sponsors, as of this writing, of two pieces of
pending concurrent receipt legislation.  It appears disingenuous
congressional leaders would on one hand call themselves co-sponsors and
on
the other hand vote to virtually kill concurrent receipt by sending it
to
DoD for review.  It’s not too late for the House and Senate to reverse
course and pass concurrent-receipt legislation and appropriate funds to
pay
for it.  Two pending bills in the House and Senate afford opportunities
to
correct wrong-headed votes.  HR 303, the Retired Pay Restoration Act of
2001, introduced by Rep. Michael Bilirakis, R-Fla., would allow military

retirees with at least 20 years of service and a service-connected
disability to receive both military retired pay and VA disability
compensation without reduction of either. S 170, the Retired Pay
Restoration
Act of 2001, introduced by Sen. Harry Reid, D-Nev., would end the
current
practice of deducting disability benefits from the amount of retirement
pay
a military retiree receives.  It would cover all military retirees with
20
or more years of service.  The recent power shift in the Senate provides

the
perfect opportunity to place S 170 on the front burner.  Sen. Thomas A.
Daschle, D-S.D., the new majority leader, is a co-sponsor.  Sen. Reid is

the
second-ranking Democratic senator in the new majority  leadership.  Both

Daschle and Reid are now in a position to move concurrent receipt
legislation forward.  I urge members of The American Legion family to
contact their congressional officials and ask them to cosponsor and,
more
importantly, vote for concurrent receipt legislation.  Penalizing,
military
retirees for choosing to serve their country for an entire career is not

only an injustice to those who have served but also a deterrent to those

who
may be considering a life of U.S. military service.  All
service-connected
disabled military retirees deserve fair and equitable treatment.

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27 Responses to “What Military Retirement ?”

  1. admin says:

    And in what way is this pertinenet to Canadian or Quebec politics ?

    Or are you just a pointless ididot who likes to cross-post ?

    "Richard Côté" <richardcote….@sympatico.ca> wrote in message

    news:3B76C36E.D460A873@sympatico.ca…

    - Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -

    > Dan Pettigrew LCDR, SC, USN, RETIRED
    > National Legislative Director
    > USDR

    > Web page  www.usdr.org

    > Two U.S. soldiers are riding in a Humvee.  They are in an accident and
    > both
    > sustain identical injuries.  Both are now eligible to receive disability

    > compensation from the Department of Veterans Affairs.  One soldier
    > leaves
    > the service and takes a federal job.  The entire time he works, he
    > receives
    > his full government salary and his VA disability payment.  When he
    > retires,
    > he receives his full federal retirement benefits ire addition to his
    > full VA
    > disability compensation payment.  But the other soldier, the one who
    > decided
    > to serve 20 more years in the military, doesn’t fare so well.  He can’t
    > receive his VA disability compensation until he retires from the
    > military,
    > and then his earned retirement pay will be reduced dollar for dollar by
    > the
    > amount of his VA disability payment.  Moreover, if his disability pay is

    > more than his military pension, he gets no retirement pay.  Zero.
    > Zilch.  A
    > fine thank you for two decades of honorable service.  Doesn’t sound
    > fair,
    > does it?  Unfortunately, that’s the way it is for our service members
    > and
    > veterans.  It’s a situation that needs to be corrected. The issue is
    > called
    > "concurrent receipt." Simply put, it’s paying veterans their VA
    > disability
    > payments without cutting into earned retirement benefits.  Military
    > retirement pay is a benefit for longevity of honorable military
    > service.  VA
    > service-connected disability compensation is for medical conditions
    > incur-red or aggravated while on active duty.  Benefits and compensation

    > are
    > separate issues and should not be linked in any way.  A veteran can
    > receive
    > disability compensation without any offsets, reductions or limits while
    > collecting unemployment compensation in Social Security, federal
    > civil-service pay or pay from a private-sector job.  Also free of
    > offsets
    > are federal civil-service retirement (including disability retirement),
    > retirement pension from non-federal jobs, or federal workers
    > compensation
    > (benefits for work-caused disability or illness provided under the
    > Federal
    > Employees’ Compensation Act).  Only military retired pay is reduced
    > dollar
    > for dollar by VA disability compensation.
    > Other federal employees can receive retirement benefits and VA
    > disability
    > payments without offsets.  In the past decade, many veterans’ programs
    > have
    > been pared to the bone to help balance the budget.  With the current
    > national debate over how to handle the sizeable budget surplus, The
    > American
    > Legion believes the time has come for retirees to receive full
    > compensation
    > for both their honorable military service and their service-connected
    > debilitating injuries or illnesses.  Fairness demands it.
    > But action by Congress in May casts into doubt the fate of concurrent
    > receipt any time soon for America’s military men and women.  Agreeing
    > with a
    > provision of House Concurrent Resolution 83 – introduced by Rep. William

    > "Mac" Thornberry, R-Texas – the House and Senate voted to send
    > concurrent
    > receipt to the Department of Defense for further study.  Ironically,
    > Thornberry is a co-sponsor of a House resolution seeking concurrent
    > receipt.
    > Existing law dishonors service-connected disability by penalizing a
    > service
    > member’s longevity.  The only appropriate action is one that will
    > provide
    > funding to end this madness.  What makes the most recent action by
    > Congress
    > perplexing is that a majority of congressional members – 65 senators and

    > 335
    > representatives – are co-sponsors, as of this writing, of two pieces of
    > pending concurrent receipt legislation.  It appears disingenuous
    > congressional leaders would on one hand call themselves co-sponsors and
    > on
    > the other hand vote to virtually kill concurrent receipt by sending it
    > to
    > DoD for review.  It’s not too late for the House and Senate to reverse
    > course and pass concurrent-receipt legislation and appropriate funds to
    > pay
    > for it.  Two pending bills in the House and Senate afford opportunities
    > to
    > correct wrong-headed votes.  HR 303, the Retired Pay Restoration Act of
    > 2001, introduced by Rep. Michael Bilirakis, R-Fla., would allow military

    > retirees with at least 20 years of service and a service-connected
    > disability to receive both military retired pay and VA disability
    > compensation without reduction of either. S 170, the Retired Pay
    > Restoration
    > Act of 2001, introduced by Sen. Harry Reid, D-Nev., would end the
    > current
    > practice of deducting disability benefits from the amount of retirement
    > pay
    > a military retiree receives.  It would cover all military retirees with
    > 20
    > or more years of service.  The recent power shift in the Senate provides

    > the
    > perfect opportunity to place S 170 on the front burner.  Sen. Thomas A.
    > Daschle, D-S.D., the new majority leader, is a co-sponsor.  Sen. Reid is

    > the
    > second-ranking Democratic senator in the new majority  leadership.  Both

    > Daschle and Reid are now in a position to move concurrent receipt
    > legislation forward.  I urge members of The American Legion family to
    > contact their congressional officials and ask them to cosponsor and,
    > more
    > importantly, vote for concurrent receipt legislation.  Penalizing,
    > military
    > retirees for choosing to serve their country for an entire career is not

    > only an injustice to those who have served but also a deterrent to those

    > who
    > may be considering a life of U.S. military service.  All
    > service-connected
    > disabled military retirees deserve fair and equitable treatment.

    > FIREBASE Network  http://www.firebase.net

  2. admin says:

    "Richard Côté" <richardcote….@sympatico.ca> wrote in message

    news:3B76C36E.D460A873@sympatico.ca…

    |What makes the most recent action by Congress perplexing is that a majority
    of congressional members – 65 senators and 335 representatives |- are
    co-sponsors, as of this writing, of two pieces of pending concurrent receipt
    legislation.  It appears disingenuous congressional leaders |would on one
    hand call themselves co-sponsors and on the other hand vote to virtually
    kill concurrent receipt by sending it to DoD for review.

    While disgusting, it is not perplexing.  By signing on as sponsors they can
    all go home and tell the folks they are all for concurrent receipt knowing
    full well it will never get to the floor for a vote.

    They are all scum, including my own Congress Critter and 2 Senators.


    Dave

  3. admin says:

    "Peter S. Saly" <Pe…@Saly.com> wrote in message
    news:tndsi0kksgjk43@corp.supernews.com…
    | And in what way is this pertinenet to Canadian or Quebec politics ?
    |
    | Or are you just a pointless ididot who likes to cross-post ?
    |

    So you cross-post his cross-post for what pertinent reason?


    Dave

  4. admin says:

    "BD (Dave) Thompson" <bdthompsonREM…@lvcablemodem.com> wrote in message
    news:tndtg4153mqk19@corp.supernews.com…

    > "Peter S. Saly" <Pe…@Saly.com> wrote in message
    > news:tndsi0kksgjk43@corp.supernews.com…
    > | And in what way is this pertinenet to Canadian or Quebec politics ?
    > |
    > | Or are you just a pointless ididot who likes to cross-post ?
    > |

    > So you cross-post his cross-post for what pertinent reason?

    For the simple reason that I do NOT know which of these groups is the one
    this idiot follows..

    What’s your reason ?

  5. admin says:

    Agreed! They are scum! What really worries me is those who put them in
    office and make sure they stay! Veterans aren’t the only one that suffer but
    we have more injustice. Where is my retirement pay?The guys who keep this
    scum in office are my neighbors and that scares me. Friends? I hope not for
    that scares me more. Jus’ like with the Clin-toons

  6. admin says:

    "Perry Marlin" <csmreti…@mindspring.com> wrote in message

    news:a79ent0rjfam3b5r485jlh7ivlb0qtkhod@4ax.com…

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    > On Sun, 12 Aug 2001 17:32:32 -0500, "Peter S. Saly" <Pe…@Saly.com>
    > wrote:

    > >"BD (Dave) Thompson" <bdthompsonREM…@lvcablemodem.com> wrote in message
    > >news:tndtg4153mqk19@corp.supernews.com…

    > >> "Peter S. Saly" <Pe…@Saly.com> wrote in message
    > >> news:tndsi0kksgjk43@corp.supernews.com…
    > >> | And in what way is this pertinenet to Canadian or Quebec politics ?
    > >> |
    > >> | Or are you just a pointless ididot who likes to cross-post ?
    > >> |

    > >> So you cross-post his cross-post for what pertinent reason?

    > >For the simple reason that I do NOT know which of these groups is the one
    > >this idiot follows..

    > >What’s your reason ?

    > to fuck with you because you are easy.

    You seem to have an active fantasy life…
        But hey, you also appear to be part of the rubber-dolly set…

  7. admin says:

    "Perry Marlin" <csmreti…@mindspring.com> wrote in message

    news:drjfntsslc7cp88h0ne9fem168bn24njmk@4ax.com…

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    > On Mon, 13 Aug 2001 00:39:13 -0500, "Peter S. Saly" <Pe…@Saly.com>
    > wrote:

    > >"Perry Marlin" <csmreti…@mindspring.com> wrote in message
    > >news:a79ent0rjfam3b5r485jlh7ivlb0qtkhod@4ax.com…
    > >> On Sun, 12 Aug 2001 17:32:32 -0500, "Peter S. Saly" <Pe…@Saly.com>
    > >> wrote:

    > >> >"BD (Dave) Thompson" <bdthompsonREM…@lvcablemodem.com> wrote in
    message
    > >> >news:tndtg4153mqk19@corp.supernews.com…

    > >> >> "Peter S. Saly" <Pe…@Saly.com> wrote in message
    > >> >> news:tndsi0kksgjk43@corp.supernews.com…
    > >> >> | And in what way is this pertinenet to Canadian or Quebec politics
    ?
    > >> >> |
    > >> >> | Or are you just a pointless ididot who likes to cross-post ?
    > >> >> |

    > >> >> So you cross-post his cross-post for what pertinent reason?

    > >> >For the simple reason that I do NOT know which of these groups is the
    one
    > >> >this idiot follows..

    > >> >What’s your reason ?

    > >> to fuck with you because you are easy.

    > >You seem to have an active fantasy life…
    > >    But hey, you also appear to be part of the rubber-dolly set…

    > You have to when dealing with dimwits, such as you.

    Geez..
    Too stupid to even know what the big inflatable object under your bed is
    called..

    Soo sad…

  8. admin says:

    "Peter S. Saly" <Pe…@Saly.com> a écrit dans le message news:
    tng2b94urko…@corp.supernews.com

    > Geez..
    > Too stupid to even know what the big inflatable object under your bed is
    > called..

    > Soo sad…

    Your woman knows what it is… if you have one, i hope she’s well chained,
    else you’ll lose her

  9. admin says:

    "Perry Marlin" <csmreti…@mindspring.com> wrote in message

    news:6r8gnt0k9k8r12ae1p41rvori778tdugp2@4ax.com…

    > On Mon, 13 Aug 2001 12:05:22 -0500, "Peter S. Saly" <Pe…@Saly.com>
    > wrote:
    > >> You have to when dealing with dimwits, such as you.

    > >Geez..
    > >Too stupid to even know what the big inflatable object under your bed is
    > >called..

    > >Soo sad…

    > What ever you say miss sally.  It least I have a dick and know how to
    > use it.

    Geez….
    What a stupid limpet…
        Can’t even copy four letters without making a mistake
    Oh wait…
        Maybe it was some childish, grade 2 attempt to try to attack me by
    mispelling my name..

    How weak…
        Is that the best you can do ??

    I am so glad for you that you
            "have a dick and know how to use it."
    My son is almost two
        And just like you, he has a pee-pee and knows hot to use it…

    I an indeed glad for you that you have finally learned to pee standing up…
        Your mommy must be soooooo proud of her little boy…
            And you must be sooooo proud that you can go out in the daytime
    without those bulky diapers…
    I am soooooo happy for you…
        Be sure to come back and tell us when you have fiinally learned how NOT
    TO GO POO-POO IN YOUR PANTS….

  10. admin says:

    "Chemo" <vivele@québeclibre.com> wrote in message

    news:NHWd7.16266$Z_2.895021@weber.videotron.net…

    > "Peter S. Saly" <Pe…@Saly.com> a écrit dans le message news:
    > tng2b94urko…@corp.supernews.com
    > > Geez..
    > > Too stupid to even know what the big inflatable object under your bed is
    > > called..

    > > Soo sad…

    > Your woman knows what it is… if you have one, i hope she’s well chained,
    > else you’ll lose her

    Tiens le nono qui parles, ecnore une fois, de sujets qu’il ne connais pas..
        Reviens, p’tit cul,  quand tu seras plus grand.
            Pour le moment va jouer avec les autres p’tits culs….

  11. admin says:

     Do you  -^- Always -^- trip over your dick when you try to walk?

     Piss ignorant dipshit dolly fucker.


    Don Thompson
    Another Thompson Scion

    "Peter S. Saly" <Pe…@Saly.com> wrote in message
    news:tngr187e6iv733@corp.supernews.com…

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    > "Perry Marlin" <csmreti…@mindspring.com> wrote in message
    > news:6r8gnt0k9k8r12ae1p41rvori778tdugp2@4ax.com…
    > > On Mon, 13 Aug 2001 12:05:22 -0500, "Peter S. Saly" <Pe…@Saly.com>
    > > wrote:
    > > >> You have to when dealing with dimwits, such as you.

    > > >Geez..
    > > >Too stupid to even know what the big inflatable object under your bed
    is
    > > >called..

    > > >Soo sad…

    > > What ever you say miss sally.  It least I have a dick and know how to
    > > use it.

    > Geez….
    > What a stupid limpet…
    >     Can’t even copy four letters without making a mistake
    > Oh wait…
    >     Maybe it was some childish, grade 2 attempt to try to attack me by
    > mispelling my name..

    > How weak…
    >     Is that the best you can do ??

    > I am so glad for you that you
    >         "have a dick and know how to use it."
    > My son is almost two
    >     And just like you, he has a pee-pee and knows hot to use it…

    > I an indeed glad for you that you have finally learned to pee standing
    up…
    >     Your mommy must be soooooo proud of her little boy…
    >         And you must be sooooo proud that you can go out in the daytime
    > without those bulky diapers…
    > I am soooooo happy for you…
    >     Be sure to come back and tell us when you have fiinally learned how
    NOT
    > TO GO POO-POO IN YOUR PANTS….

  12. admin says:

    No because I’m smart enough to roll it up in my shorts..
    But don’t be jealous
        It’s not your fault that you are a damaged "Thompson Scion"

    By the way, did you ever consider signing your name
        "Dumb Thompson
            The Idiot Thompson Scum"…
    It sure would be a better and more truthfull representation..

    "Don Thompson" <flash…@ix.netcom.comghost> wrote in message

    news:9l9tds$kdi$1@slb7.atl.mindspring.net…

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    > Do you  -^- Always -^- trip over your dick when you try to walk?

    >  Piss ignorant dipshit dolly fucker.

    > —
    > Don Thompson
    > Another Thompson Scion

    > "Peter S. Saly" <Pe…@Saly.com> wrote in message
    > news:tngr187e6iv733@corp.supernews.com…

    > > "Perry Marlin" <csmreti…@mindspring.com> wrote in message
    > > news:6r8gnt0k9k8r12ae1p41rvori778tdugp2@4ax.com…
    > > > On Mon, 13 Aug 2001 12:05:22 -0500, "Peter S. Saly" <Pe…@Saly.com>
    > > > wrote:
    > > > >> You have to when dealing with dimwits, such as you.

    > > > >Geez..
    > > > >Too stupid to even know what the big inflatable object under your bed
    > is
    > > > >called..

    > > > >Soo sad…

    > > > What ever you say miss sally.  It least I have a dick and know how to
    > > > use it.

    > > Geez….
    > > What a stupid limpet…
    > >     Can’t even copy four letters without making a mistake
    > > Oh wait…
    > >     Maybe it was some childish, grade 2 attempt to try to attack me by
    > > mispelling my name..

    > > How weak…
    > >     Is that the best you can do ??

    > > I am so glad for you that you
    > >         "have a dick and know how to use it."
    > > My son is almost two
    > >     And just like you, he has a pee-pee and knows hot to use it…

    > > I an indeed glad for you that you have finally learned to pee standing
    > up…
    > >     Your mommy must be soooooo proud of her little boy…
    > >         And you must be sooooo proud that you can go out in the daytime
    > > without those bulky diapers…
    > > I am soooooo happy for you…
    > >     Be sure to come back and tell us when you have fiinally learned how
    > NOT
    > > TO GO POO-POO IN YOUR PANTS….

  13. admin says:

     Suck my dick you piss ignorant piece of shit.


    Don Thompson
    Another Thompson Scion

    "Peter S. Saly" <Pe…@Saly.com> wrote in message
    news:tnh566c75ng517@corp.supernews.com…

    - Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -

    > No because I’m smart enough to roll it up in my shorts..
    > But don’t be jealous
    >     It’s not your fault that you are a damaged "Thompson Scion"

    > By the way, did you ever consider signing your name
    >     "Dumb Thompson
    >         The Idiot Thompson Scum"…
    > It sure would be a better and more truthfull representation..

    > "Don Thompson" <flash…@ix.netcom.comghost> wrote in message
    > news:9l9tds$kdi$1@slb7.atl.mindspring.net…
    > > Do you  -^- Always -^- trip over your dick when you try to walk?

    > >  Piss ignorant dipshit dolly fucker.

    > > —
    > > Don Thompson
    > > Another Thompson Scion

    > > "Peter S. Saly" <Pe…@Saly.com> wrote in message
    > > news:tngr187e6iv733@corp.supernews.com…

    > > > "Perry Marlin" <csmreti…@mindspring.com> wrote in message
    > > > news:6r8gnt0k9k8r12ae1p41rvori778tdugp2@4ax.com…
    > > > > On Mon, 13 Aug 2001 12:05:22 -0500, "Peter S. Saly" <Pe…@Saly.com>
    > > > > wrote:
    > > > > >> You have to when dealing with dimwits, such as you.

    > > > > >Geez..
    > > > > >Too stupid to even know what the big inflatable object under your
    bed
    > > is
    > > > > >called..

    > > > > >Soo sad…

    > > > > What ever you say miss sally.  It least I have a dick and know how
    to
    > > > > use it.

    > > > Geez….
    > > > What a stupid limpet…
    > > >     Can’t even copy four letters without making a mistake
    > > > Oh wait…
    > > >     Maybe it was some childish, grade 2 attempt to try to attack me by
    > > > mispelling my name..

    > > > How weak…
    > > >     Is that the best you can do ??

    > > > I am so glad for you that you
    > > >         "have a dick and know how to use it."
    > > > My son is almost two
    > > >     And just like you, he has a pee-pee and knows hot to use it…

    > > > I an indeed glad for you that you have finally learned to pee standing
    > > up…
    > > >     Your mommy must be soooooo proud of her little boy…
    > > >         And you must be sooooo proud that you can go out in the
    daytime
    > > > without those bulky diapers…
    > > > I am soooooo happy for you…
    > > >     Be sure to come back and tell us when you have fiinally learned
    how
    > > NOT
    > > > TO GO POO-POO IN YOUR PANTS….

  14. admin says:

    Ah we’re down to tavern insults…
        Sure didn’t take long..
    But then cro-magnons have only a very thin veneer of cilization..

    Yo bubba..
        Your red neck is showing…

    Go back to your tavern, boy..

    "Don Thompson" <flash…@ix.netcom.comghost> wrote in message

    news:9la5fu$d5b$1@slb1.atl.mindspring.net…

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    > Suck my dick you piss ignorant piece of shit.

    > —
    > Don Thompson
    > Another Thompson Scion

    > "Peter S. Saly" <Pe…@Saly.com> wrote in message
    > news:tnh566c75ng517@corp.supernews.com…
    > > No because I’m smart enough to roll it up in my shorts..
    > > But don’t be jealous
    > >     It’s not your fault that you are a damaged "Thompson Scion"

    > > By the way, did you ever consider signing your name
    > >     "Dumb Thompson
    > >         The Idiot Thompson Scum"…
    > > It sure would be a better and more truthfull representation..

    > > "Don Thompson" <flash…@ix.netcom.comghost> wrote in message
    > > news:9l9tds$kdi$1@slb7.atl.mindspring.net…
    > > > Do you  -^- Always -^- trip over your dick when you try to walk?

    > > >  Piss ignorant dipshit dolly fucker.

    > > > —
    > > > Don Thompson
    > > > Another Thompson Scion

    > > > "Peter S. Saly" <Pe…@Saly.com> wrote in message
    > > > news:tngr187e6iv733@corp.supernews.com…

    > > > > "Perry Marlin" <csmreti…@mindspring.com> wrote in message
    > > > > news:6r8gnt0k9k8r12ae1p41rvori778tdugp2@4ax.com…
    > > > > > On Mon, 13 Aug 2001 12:05:22 -0500, "Peter S. Saly"

    <Pe…@Saly.com>

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    > > > > > wrote:
    > > > > > >> You have to when dealing with dimwits, such as you.

    > > > > > >Geez..
    > > > > > >Too stupid to even know what the big inflatable object under your
    > bed
    > > > is
    > > > > > >called..

    > > > > > >Soo sad…

    > > > > > What ever you say miss sally.  It least I have a dick and know how
    > to
    > > > > > use it.

    > > > > Geez….
    > > > > What a stupid limpet…
    > > > >     Can’t even copy four letters without making a mistake
    > > > > Oh wait…
    > > > >     Maybe it was some childish, grade 2 attempt to try to attack me
    by
    > > > > mispelling my name..

    > > > > How weak…
    > > > >     Is that the best you can do ??

    > > > > I am so glad for you that you
    > > > >         "have a dick and know how to use it."
    > > > > My son is almost two
    > > > >     And just like you, he has a pee-pee and knows hot to use it…

    > > > > I an indeed glad for you that you have finally learned to pee
    standing
    > > > up…
    > > > >     Your mommy must be soooooo proud of her little boy…
    > > > >         And you must be sooooo proud that you can go out in the
    > daytime
    > > > > without those bulky diapers…
    > > > > I am soooooo happy for you…
    > > > >     Be sure to come back and tell us when you have fiinally learned
    > how
    > > > NOT
    > > > > TO GO POO-POO IN YOUR PANTS….

  15. admin says:

    Richard Côté <richardcote….@sympatico.ca> wrote in message <news:3B76C36E.D460A873@sympatico.ca>…

    I don’t mean to be unduly harsh because I am not without some sympathy
    to the situation, but…

    I would say that the first fellow made a wise choice.  He took his
    disability and earned a **separate** retirement benefit over and above
    that based exclusively upon his military service and disabilities
    incurred therein.  Fellow number two continued to incubate his
    military service eggs, to the exclusion of other opportumities.  It
    was the choice he made.  The offset of VA comp and military retirement
    is not new.  It has been around for a long long time.  It was readily
    knowable when fellow number two made his choices.  At some point
    individuals need to own up to their choices.  Especially those on the
    level of retired USN LCDR’s.  All just IMHO.

    BoyCat

  16. admin says:

    "Perry Marlin" <csmreti…@mindspring.com> wrote in message

    news:pncint482l89huutr30v1b9o0fb3nqo7s8@4ax.com…

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    > On Mon, 13 Aug 2001 19:06:42 -0500, "Peter S. Saly" <Pe…@Saly.com>
    > wrote:

    > >"Perry Marlin" <csmreti…@mindspring.com> wrote in message
    > >news:6r8gnt0k9k8r12ae1p41rvori778tdugp2@4ax.com…
    > >> On Mon, 13 Aug 2001 12:05:22 -0500, "Peter S. Saly" <Pe…@Saly.com>
    > >> wrote:
    > >> >> You have to when dealing with dimwits, such as you.

    > >> >Geez..
    > >> >Too stupid to even know what the big inflatable object under your bed
    is
    > >> >called..

    > >> >Soo sad…

    > >> What ever you say miss sally.  It least I have a dick and know how to
    > >> use it.

    > >Geez….
    > >What a stupid limpet…
    > >    Can’t even copy four letters without making a mistake
    > >Oh wait…
    > >    Maybe it was some childish, grade 2 attempt to try to attack me by
    > >mispelling my name..

    > >How weak…
    > >    Is that the best you can do ??

    > >I am so glad for you that you
    > >        "have a dick and know how to use it."
    > >My son is almost two
    > >    And just like you, he has a pee-pee and knows hot to use it…

    > >I an indeed glad for you that you have finally learned to pee standing
    up…
    > >    Your mommy must be soooooo proud of her little boy…
    > >        And you must be sooooo proud that you can go out in the daytime
    > >without those bulky diapers…
    > >I am soooooo happy for you…
    > >    Be sure to come back and tell us when you have fiinally learned how
    NOT
    > >TO GO POO-POO IN YOUR PANTS….

    > No fuck face your name is sally because you act like a little pussy.
    > You low life scum pond sucking pig fucker.  Yes your wife is a pig.

    Definitely a tavern red-neck with liquid courage…

    Why are you pissed off this morning…
        Did you miss the bowl and stain your pants ?

    Poor baby.
        Peter feels sorry for you…
    Don’t worry in time (maybe 20 years), you learn to do it right…
        (I hope for you)…

  17. admin says:

    "Perry Marlin" <csmreti…@prodigy.net> wrote in message

    news:qptints45it2ob6hm1et5raua1lng24nd1@4ax.com…

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    > On Tue, 14 Aug 2001 09:56:58 -0500, "Peter S. Saly" <Pe…@Saly.com>
    > wrote:

    > >"Perry Marlin" <csmreti…@mindspring.com> wrote in message
    > >> No fuck face your name is sally because you act like a little pussy.
    > >> You low life scum pond sucking pig fucker.  Yes your wife is a pig.

    > >Definitely a tavern red-neck with liquid courage…

    > >Why are you pissed off this morning…
    > >    Did you miss the bowl and stain your pants ?

    > >Poor baby.
    > >    Peter feels sorry for you…
    > >Don’t worry in time (maybe 20 years), you learn to do it right…
    > >    (I hope for you)…

    > Pick one or several or any that applies.

    > <snip> list of stupid and childish insults copied off a wed site…

    Poor baby..
    Unable to come up with your own insults
        had to copy them off a web site…

    Focus on learning how to pee without getting your feet wet.
        You’l find that skill more useful in you otherwise useless life..

  18. admin says:

    Quel enfilade!!!! Tu sais te faire des amis partout Peter!

    "Peter S. Saly" a écrit :

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    > "Perry Marlin" <csmreti…@prodigy.net> wrote in message
    > news:qptints45it2ob6hm1et5raua1lng24nd1@4ax.com…
    > > On Tue, 14 Aug 2001 09:56:58 -0500, "Peter S. Saly" <Pe…@Saly.com>
    > > wrote:

    > > >"Perry Marlin" <csmreti…@mindspring.com> wrote in message
    > > >> No fuck face your name is sally because you act like a little pussy.
    > > >> You low life scum pond sucking pig fucker.  Yes your wife is a pig.

    > > >Definitely a tavern red-neck with liquid courage…

    > > >Why are you pissed off this morning…
    > > >    Did you miss the bowl and stain your pants ?

    > > >Poor baby.
    > > >    Peter feels sorry for you…
    > > >Don’t worry in time (maybe 20 years), you learn to do it right…
    > > >    (I hope for you)…

    > > Pick one or several or any that applies.

    > > <snip> list of stupid and childish insults copied off a wed site…

    > Poor baby..
    > Unable to come up with your own insults
    >     had to copy them off a web site…

    > Focus on learning how to pee without getting your feet wet.
    >     You’l find that skill more useful in you otherwise useless life..

  19. admin says:

    Qu’est-ce qui te fait imaginer que j’ai besoin de me <<faire des amis
    partout>>
        J’ai aucun besoin d’imbeciles comme amis..

    Et quand tu y penses, il a EXACTEMENT la meme mentalite qu’un separa-tata..
        Un baveux de taverne, c’est la meme chose en n’importe quelle langue.
    Moi, je les trouves plus amusants que la cage de singes aux zoo…

    "LLSS" <ls…@hotmail.com> wrote in message

    news:3B79829A.CE86F321@hotmail.com…

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    > Quel enfilade!!!! Tu sais te faire des amis partout Peter!

    > "Peter S. Saly" a écrit :

    > > "Perry Marlin" <csmreti…@prodigy.net> wrote in message
    > > news:qptints45it2ob6hm1et5raua1lng24nd1@4ax.com…
    > > > On Tue, 14 Aug 2001 09:56:58 -0500, "Peter S. Saly" <Pe…@Saly.com>
    > > > wrote:

    > > > >"Perry Marlin" <csmreti…@mindspring.com> wrote in message
    > > > >> No fuck face your name is sally because you act like a little
    pussy.
    > > > >> You low life scum pond sucking pig fucker.  Yes your wife is a pig.

    > > > >Definitely a tavern red-neck with liquid courage…

    > > > >Why are you pissed off this morning…
    > > > >    Did you miss the bowl and stain your pants ?

    > > > >Poor baby.
    > > > >    Peter feels sorry for you…
    > > > >Don’t worry in time (maybe 20 years), you learn to do it right…
    > > > >    (I hope for you)…

    > > > Pick one or several or any that applies.

    > > > <snip> list of stupid and childish insults copied off a wed site…

    > > Poor baby..
    > > Unable to come up with your own insults
    > >     had to copy them off a web site…

    > > Focus on learning how to pee without getting your feet wet.
    > >     You’l find that skill more useful in you otherwise useless life..

  20. admin says:

    "Perry Marlin" <csmreti…@mindspring.com> wrote in message

    news:hc9jntsvv4qm9ptcims368d9gqatr674nf@4ax.com…

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    > On Tue, 14 Aug 2001 14:23:22 -0500, "Peter S. Saly" <Pe…@Saly.com>
    > wrote:

    > >"Perry Marlin" <csmreti…@prodigy.net> wrote in message
    > >news:qptints45it2ob6hm1et5raua1lng24nd1@4ax.com…
    > >> On Tue, 14 Aug 2001 09:56:58 -0500, "Peter S. Saly" <Pe…@Saly.com>
    > >> wrote:

    > >> >"Perry Marlin" <csmreti…@mindspring.com> wrote in message
    > >> >> No fuck face your name is sally because you act like a little pussy.
    > >> >> You low life scum pond sucking pig fucker.  Yes your wife is a pig.

    > >> >Definitely a tavern red-neck with liquid courage…

    > >> >Why are you pissed off this morning…
    > >> >    Did you miss the bowl and stain your pants ?

    > >> >Poor baby.
    > >> >    Peter feels sorry for you…
    > >> >Don’t worry in time (maybe 20 years), you learn to do it right…
    > >> >    (I hope for you)…

    > >> Pick one or several or any that applies.

    > >> <snip> list of stupid and childish insults copied off a wed site…

    > >Poor baby..
    > >Unable to come up with your own insults
    > >    had to copy them off a web site…

    > >Focus on learning how to pee without getting your feet wet.
    > >    You’l find that skill more useful in you otherwise useless life..

    > Prove I found those on a web site you lying son bitch,

    Hey stupid…

    Why should I do research, to prove you’re a twit..?
        You’re jumping into this thread spouting insults proves that.
    As for you’re insults
        They’re at a level I forgot when I fiinished grade school
    Your not worth the effiort nof doing any research
    ..
    On the other hand, I just enjoy ringing your bell
        It makes you bark on cue,
            like the well-trained Pavlovian dog, that you are…

    Ding !

    :-) )))

  21. admin says:

    "Perry Marlin" <csmreti…@mindspring.com> wrote in message

    news:okojnt0f17p7renv6n8j3geb3347n7dk4o@4ax.com…

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    > On Tue, 14 Aug 2001 19:44:25 -0500, "Peter S. Saly" <Pe…@Saly.com>
    > wrote:

    > >"Perry Marlin" <csmreti…@mindspring.com> wrote in message
    > >news:hc9jntsvv4qm9ptcims368d9gqatr674nf@4ax.com…
    > >> On Tue, 14 Aug 2001 14:23:22 -0500, "Peter S. Saly" <Pe…@Saly.com>
    > >> wrote:
    > >> Prove I found those on a web site you lying son bitch,

    > >Hey stupid…

    > >Why should I do research, to prove you’re a twit..?
    > >    You’re jumping into this thread spouting insults proves that.
    > >As for you’re insults
    > >    They’re at a level I forgot when I fiinished grade school
    > >Your not worth the effiort nof doing any research
    > >..
    > >On the other hand, I just enjoy ringing your bell
    > >    It makes you bark on cue,
    > >        like the well-trained Pavlovian dog, that you are…

    > >Ding !

    > >:-))))

    > Silly little girl,

    Told you, you would come bark at the sound of the bell…

    God boy…

    Let’s try it again.
        You ding-dong…

  22. admin says:

    LLSS wrote:

    > Quel enfilade!!!! Tu sais te faire des amis partout Peter!

    > "Peter S. Saly" a écrit :

    TAB TAB TAB

    Pas l’choix, même sa main droite y dit:
       "j’ai mal à la tête à souaire".
    Alors y essaye la gauche, qui continue:
       "t’as voulu m’tromper cibonakke"
    ‘pis s’enfonce dans son cul.


    Un Fils Prodigue

    Promovoir et préserver la culture québecoise et la langue
    québecoise, uniques au monde.  L’avenir des moutons n’est
    qu’un nom; celui des autres, le futur d’un verbe.

  23. admin says:

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    LLSS wrote:

    > > >Quel enfilade!!!! Tu sais te faire des amis partout Peter!

    > > "Peter S. Saly" a écrit :

    > > Qu’est-ce qui te fait imaginer que j’ai besoin de me:
    > >       <<faire des amis partout>>
    > >     J’ai aucun besoin d’imbeciles comme amis..

    > > Et quand tu y penses, il a EXACTEMENT la meme mentalite qu’un
    separa-tata..
    > >     Un baveux de taverne, c’est la meme chose en n’importe quelle
    langue.
    > > Moi, je les trouves plus amusants que la cage de singes aux zoo…

    > > Sur quoi:

    > "Fils Prodigue" <que…@queq.org>
    > >        Un AUTRE IMBECILE de TAVERNE
    > a DEGUEULE dans le message news:3B7A249C.55D0D989@queq.org…

    > TAB TAB TAB

    > Pas l’choix, même sa main droite y dit:
    > "j’ai mal à la tête à souaire".
    > Alors y essaye la gauche, qui continue:
    >    "t’as voulu m’tromper cibonakke"
    > ‘pis s’enfonce dans son cul.

    > ==========================

    Quel belle intervention d’IMBECILE..
        Ca t’as pas pris tres longtemps t’abaisser a ce bas niveau..

    Oh well..
        No surprise there…

  24. admin says:

    "Perry Marlin" <csmreti…@prodigy.net> wrote in message

    news:g80lnt02t7vj2dk4jrith9ncavqp8t2irl@4ax.com…

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    > On Tue, 14 Aug 2001 22:00:40 -0500, "Peter S. Saly" <Pe…@Saly.com>
    > wrote:

    > >"Perry Marlin" <csmreti…@mindspring.com> wrote in message
    > >news:okojnt0f17p7renv6n8j3geb3347n7dk4o@4ax.com…
    > >> On Tue, 14 Aug 2001 19:44:25 -0500, "Peter S. Saly" <Pe…@Saly.com>
    > >> wrote:

    > >> >"Perry Marlin" <csmreti…@mindspring.com> wrote in message
    > >> >news:hc9jntsvv4qm9ptcims368d9gqatr674nf@4ax.com…
    > >> >> On Tue, 14 Aug 2001 14:23:22 -0500, "Peter S. Saly" <Pe…@Saly.com>
    > >> >> wrote:
    > >> >> Prove I found those on a web site you lying son bitch,

    > >> >Hey stupid…

    > >> >Why should I do research, to prove you’re a twit..?
    > >> >    You’re jumping into this thread spouting insults proves that.
    > >> >As for you’re insults
    > >> >    They’re at a level I forgot when I fiinished grade school
    > >> >Your not worth the effiort nof doing any research
    > >> >..
    > >> >On the other hand, I just enjoy ringing your bell
    > >> >    It makes you bark on cue,
    > >> >        like the well-trained Pavlovian dog, that you are…

    > >> >Ding !

    > >> >:-))))

    > >> Silly little girl,

    > >Told you, you would come bark at the sound of the bell…

    > >God boy…

    > >Let’s try it again.
    > >    You ding-dong…

    > Silly little Girl, Geezzz what a wimp pussy you are,

    Hey look at that..
        I rang your bell with a Dong-dong…
            And you’re baaaack…
    Good doggy…

  25. admin says:

    Hmmm, well if the press didn’t cover it, then how did you hear about it?
    There seemed to be plenty of coverage of the incident in Texas when 2 white
    men drug a black man to death being chained to the back of a truck. Seemed
    to be plenty of coverage when white cops beat the hell out of Rodney King. I
    could go on and on. What I DON’T see in the liberal press is the black on
    white crimes that happen every day.

    Whoever came up with the term "hate crimes" is a dumbass anyway. All violent
    crimes are "hate crimes". In some states, if you kill someone, you get
    executed. Whether it was racial or not. The penalty would be the same. Why
    do we need hate crimes legislation if violent crime laws are already in the
    books?

    SikofLibs
    http://nekesc.org/stossel.html (RealVideo Required)

    A Real American <rgerm…@rovin.net> wrote in message
    news:tndd8rdapqdbe3@corp.supernews.com…

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    > The Hate Crimes You Don’t Hear About
    > by Russ Kick

    >    Cleveland, Ohio. A white man on a moped accidentally bumped into a
    truck
    > being driven by a black man. He fell over but was not injured. A crowd of
    40
    > white people pulled the black driver from the truck and brutally beat him.
    > One of them climbed in the truck and ran over the driver, killing him. The
    > crowd cheered.
    >    Jacksonville, Florida. A group of four to six white men agreed that
    they
    > would brutalize the next black person they saw walking down the street.
    That
    > person turned out to be a mentally disabled 50-year-old, whom they beat
    and
    > stomped into unconsciousness. He later died of his injuries.

    >    Are you surprised that you’ve never heard of these sickening murders
    > based on racial hatred? You didn’t see saturation coverage on the news.
    You
    > didn’t hear politicians decrying racism. You didn’t see a livid Jesse
    > Jackson on CNN. Why? Because these acts of brutality didn’t happen exactly
    > as I described above. Oh, they happened, all right. The only thing is, the
    > races of the attackers and victims were reversed. That is, a white man was
    > beaten and then crushed by a mob of 40 black people who were furious that
    a
    > black man bumped into his truck.¹ In Jacksonville, it was a gang of black
    > men who stomped a mentally-disabled man to death solely because he was
    > white.²

    > Because these hate crimes were perpetrated by black against whites – even
    > though they were based completely on racial hatred – the national media,
    > politicians, and civil rights leaders ignored them.

    >    If these acts of savagery had indeed happened as I originally described
    > them above, you would have heard about them. But because they were
    > perpetrated by blacks against whites – even though they were based
    > completely on racial hatred – the national media, politicians, and civil
    > rights leaders ignored them. As opposed to the deaths of Yusef Hawkins and
    > James Byrd, these deaths are only reported in the local media. And even
    > then, the races of the people involved are often not mentioned.
    >    Below are some more hate crimes that have been ignored because they
    > happened the "wrong way" (i.e., they were black-on-white instead of
    > white-on-black).

    > Milwaukee, Wisconsin. Upset about a racial name-calling that occurred
    > earlier that night, several black men savagely beat a random white man who
    > had had nothing to do with the incident. He slipped away from his
    attackers,
    > but they forced him to swim into a lake to escape. He drowned. The three
    men
    > were sentenced to less than a year in jail.3

    > Massachusetts. Four black men decided to murder the next white person they
    > saw. That unlucky soul was a college student from Boston, whom the men
    > stabbed to death.4

    > Indiana. A black man was arrested for killing seven white people with a
    > shotgun. He explained that he murdered his victims due to his "deep-rooted
    > hatred" of white people.5

    > Miami, Florida. The leader of a black supremacist sect (i.e., the "Yaweh
    ben
    > Yaweh cult") was convicted of the murders of several white people. He
    > ordered his followers to kill any and all "white devils." They killed at
    > least seven white people, bringing back body parts to their leader.6

    > North Carolina. Seven black men kidnapped a white woman, raped her, put
    her
    > in a tub of bleach, shot her five times, and dumped her body. The
    murderers
    > said they did this for racial reasons.7

    > North Carolina. Four black teenagers lured a white, ten-year-old girl into
    > an empty house. "There, they sodomized her, strangled her with a cable
    wire,
    > and beat her to death with a board. In the past few weeks, the trials in
    the
    > Tiffany Long case have received extensive coverage in the North Carolina
    > press. But with two of the three defendants already sentenced to lifelong
    > prison terms, and the third now standing trial, the national media have
    all
    > but ignored the story. Only the Associated Press has reported on the
    trials,
    > in a single, cursory piece. The AP, of course, failed to mention the race
    of
    > the people involved – an oversight it seldom if ever committed in the case
    > of Amadou Diallo."8

    > Boulder, Colorado. After discovering that one of their members had never
    had
    > sex with a white woman, an Asian gang went looking for one. When they
    found
    > a white University of Colorado student, the six men gang raped her in
    their
    > minivan for two hours.
    >    At their trial, "Detectives described the woman’s night of terror,
    > including repeated threats to kill her.

    >    "The woman leaped out of the minivan after one of the men raped her.
    > Naked, she sprinted across Lefthand Canyon Road before Steve Yang tackled
    > her, authorities said.

    >    "’They were all screaming at her, calling her names and hitting her,’
    > Detective Jane Harmer testified.

    >    "Yang put her in a headlock and dragged her back into the van, where
    she
    > was raped repeatedly, Harmer said.

    >    "’It was a free-for-all,’ Harmer testified.

    >    "One man threatened to ‘cut and burn her,’ and another put a gun barrel
    > to the back of her head when they released her, Harmer said."9

    > Kansas City, Missouri. An Ethiopian immigrant shot two white coworkers –
    > killing one and critically injuring the other – at his workplace, then
    > turned the gun on himself. At his residence, police found a three-page,
    > signed note he had written in which he railed at "black blood sucker
    supreme
    > white people" for oppressing him and black people in general.10

    > New York City. In a Midtown office building, a white woman was assaulted,
    > raped, and anally raped by a black man who called her racist names during
    > the attack. Police refused to label it a hate crime.11

    > Alexandria, Virginia. A black man walking through a neighborhood went over
    > to a white eight-year-old boy playing in his great-grandparents’ front
    yard
    > and slit the child’s throat, killing him. A witness says that the attacker
    > shouted racial epithets during the attack, and the main suspect in the
    case
    > owns anti-white hate literature and had written a note about killing white
    > children. He had been previously arrested for attacking an unarmed white
    > stranger with a hammer. (During the attack, he called his victim
    >  "Whitey.")12
    >    This particular case provides a perfect example of the terrible way
    that
    > anti-white hate crimes are handled. First, the investigators decided not
    to
    > tell police officers about the racial aspects of the case, even while the
    > police were conducting a manhunt to find the boy’s killer. When this was
    > revealed by the Washington Post, city council member Joyce Woodson
    defended
    > this withholding of information from the cops on the front line. "What
    they
    > did was proper. We already live in a racially charged world." The
    Democratic
    > mayor of Alexandria implied his agreement: "Efforts to sensationalize this
    > investigation will only hurt this investigation."13

    >    To make things even stranger, the FBI offered to send agents and a
    > fugitive task force to help with the manhunt, but the local police
    rejected
    > the offer. They also refused the help of the FBI’s profilers, forensics
    > experts, and others.14

    >    Eventually, the police arrested a suspect who was reportedly tied to
    the
    > scene by DNA evidence. In another bizarre move, the Justice Department –
    > which had acknowledged that it was monitoring the case – declined to
    > prosecute the killing as a hate crime. The government’s prosecutor in the
    > case cannot charge the victim with a hate crime. "There’s no applicable
    hate
    > crimes law in Virginia," he explained.15

    >    An editorial in the Washington Times pointedly commented on the
    deafening
    > silence surrounding the brutal child-murder: "Has anyone seen Jesse
    Jackson
    > around lately? Kweisi Mfume? Al Sharpton? For persons whose political
    > antennae are ordinarily so sensitive that they can pick up racial tremors
    a
    > thousand miles away, they seem to have overlooked a possible hate crime
    > right here in the vicinity of the nation’s capital."

    >    Even though all of the above incidents occurred in the last ten years,
    > anti-white hate crimes are not new. The Village Voice writes of "the wave
    of
    > random street killings that terrorized San Francisco in 1973. The ‘Zebra
    > killers’ struck without warning, murdering whites at night. Most victims
    > were shot. One was raped, another beheaded. Four young black Muslims were
    > arrested in 1974 and charged with 14 murders, seven assaults, one rape,
    and
    > an attempted kidnapping. The Zebra killers were convicted in 1976."16

    > The Exceptions That Prove the Rule

    >    On extremely rare occasions a vicious black-on-white hate crime does
    make
    > the national news. This was the case with the Central Park jogger and
    Colin
    > Ferguson. Just why these two violent acts of hatred bubbled up into mass
    > consciousness – while others that are at least as heinous have been
    > ignored – is not clear. Nevertheless, it is instructive to examine them
    > because, though they received wide attention, they were still treated
    > differently

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  26. admin says:

    "Sikoflibs" <sikofl…@libertarian.com> wrote in message news:tnh8d2j4l22ra9@corp.supernews.com…
    > Hmmm, well if the press didn’t cover it, then how did you hear about it?
    > There seemed to be plenty of coverage of the incident in Texas when 2 white
    > men drug a black man to death being chained to the back of a truck. Seemed
    > to be plenty of coverage when white cops beat the hell out of Rodney King. I
    > could go on and on. What I DON’T see in the liberal press is the black on
    > white crimes that happen every day.

    It is very simple and clear that by many individuals in the press (the PR wing
    of the Democrat party) white life isn’t important, because the white community
    is more likely to vote against the Democrats.  :-).  Such devaluation is meant
    to show that the Democrats are the ‘chosen’ minorities ‘special’ friend, and
    really does appeal to base (cheap, disgusting) instincts.   To someone who
    only observes the Democrats (and not married to any party), this isn’t suprising,
    but only consistant behavior of Democrats and their activists.

    There is obviously a systematic and institutional devaluation of the life of
    all but the chosen minority.  The *correct* answer to the problem isn’t to try to devalue
    other life (it only mimicks the behavior of the corrupt typical Democrat), but
    to uncover the rocks that the lowlife racists are hiding under.  They’ll
    scurry about like other low, nasty, slimey creatures, trying to hide under
    other causes, but the behavior of those Democrats (the LIEberal wing
    of the party) are becoming more and more obvious.

    The biggest effect of showing the institutional racism and the institutional
    corruption of the Democrat party (and their supporters) will be a more
    aggressive stance by them, and they’ll actually become more racist.

    The key to righteousness (both those in the Democrat party trying to fix
    the corruption, and those who are not affiliated with the Democrats) is simply
    to uncover the behavior.   The VERY racist individuals really do believe that
    devaluing the lives of white people is a good thing, and they will rationalize
    it moreso, after their inability to hide their disgusting behavior.

    The persistant pandering to (and actual destruction) of the blacks only needs
    to be uncovered along with the well organized racism, and the diseased fruits
    that the Democrats have sewn only need to come to fruition.  It has really
    been a problem lately for the Dems, since it is hard to pander and suck-up
    to multiple groups at the same time, and the Hispanics are throwing a real
    monkeywrench into the politics of singling out a ‘chosen’ minority policy.

    Again, it takes EDUCATION to force the Democrats into a more honest, non-discriminatory
    position is to educate the people by showing them the nasty little creatures
    (the Democrat hierarchy, spinmeisters and strategists) that will screw with
    and damage anyone’s lives who can be taken advantage of.   The biggest anti-Democrat
    program (that is, the current Democrat leadership), is a balanced, non-propagandist,
    education program, that talks about reality and not the Democrat fiction.

    Actually, the last vestiges of the lynch mob racist wing of the Democrat party
    still resides in that party.   It is the infectious racist attitude that has morphed into
    a different form, but the evil is still there.   The best way to fight such evil is to
    appeal to the honor left in the people once they are aware of what the Democrat
    party really is today.

    John

  27. admin says:

    Good points. Also it seems that Democrats of the past fought for the working
    man. The modern libs, however, fight for the non-working man. The libs have
    drifted away from their core beliefs at a steady pace for at least 25 years.
    Now their agenda is to fight like hell to throw money at problems instead of
    solving them. They believe that achieving goals has to mean whichever party
    gives the most money to a cause.

    I have several black friends. All of which know how to make it on their own
    and make wise decisions for their well-being. But there are many other black
    Americans that continue time and time again to support the party that claims
    they will do more for them, but fail every time. But they continue to vote
    for them! Why?

    How can you get satisfaction knowing you will be getting gov’t handouts to
    squeak by? Isn’t it more fulfilling to succeed on your own and achieve your
    goals when you do it without the aid of big gov’t? When gov’t gets too
    involved and gives more handouts, It turns those recipients into lazy,
    worthless pieces of shit. A good example of this can be seen in the link
    below. It is a good documentary about how well gov’t can screw things up.

    SikofLibs
    http://nekesc.org/stossel.html (RealVideo Required)

    JD <dy…@jdyson.com> wrote in message

    news:RH1e7.695$5N2.168607@news1.iquest.net…

    > "Sikoflibs" <sikofl…@libertarian.com> wrote in message

    news:tnh8d2j4l22ra9@corp.supernews.com…

    - Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -

    > > Hmmm, well if the press didn’t cover it, then how did you hear about it?
    > > There seemed to be plenty of coverage of the incident in Texas when 2
    white
    > > men drug a black man to death being chained to the back of a truck.
    Seemed
    > > to be plenty of coverage when white cops beat the hell out of Rodney
    King. I
    > > could go on and on. What I DON’T see in the liberal press is the black
    on
    > > white crimes that happen every day.

    > It is very simple and clear that by many individuals in the press (the PR
    wing
    > of the Democrat party) white life isn’t important, because the white
    community
    > is more likely to vote against the Democrats.  :-).  Such devaluation is
    meant
    > to show that the Democrats are the ‘chosen’ minorities ‘special’ friend,
    and
    > really does appeal to base (cheap, disgusting) instincts.   To someone who
    > only observes the Democrats (and not married to any party), this isn’t
    suprising,
    > but only consistant behavior of Democrats and their activists.

    > There is obviously a systematic and institutional devaluation of the life
    of
    > all but the chosen minority.  The *correct* answer to the problem isn’t to
    try to devalue
    > other life (it only mimicks the behavior of the corrupt typical Democrat),
    but
    > to uncover the rocks that the lowlife racists are hiding under.  They’ll
    > scurry about like other low, nasty, slimey creatures, trying to hide under
    > other causes, but the behavior of those Democrats (the LIEberal wing
    > of the party) are becoming more and more obvious.

    > The biggest effect of showing the institutional racism and the
    institutional
    > corruption of the Democrat party (and their supporters) will be a more
    > aggressive stance by them, and they’ll actually become more racist.

    > The key to righteousness (both those in the Democrat party trying to fix
    > the corruption, and those who are not affiliated with the Democrats) is
    simply
    > to uncover the behavior.   The VERY racist individuals really do believe
    that
    > devaluing the lives of white people is a good thing, and they will
    rationalize
    > it moreso, after their inability to hide their disgusting behavior.

    > The persistant pandering to (and actual destruction) of the blacks only
    needs
    > to be uncovered along with the well organized racism, and the diseased
    fruits
    > that the Democrats have sewn only need to come to fruition.  It has really
    > been a problem lately for the Dems, since it is hard to pander and suck-up
    > to multiple groups at the same time, and the Hispanics are throwing a real
    > monkeywrench into the politics of singling out a ‘chosen’ minority policy.

    > Again, it takes EDUCATION to force the Democrats into a more honest,
    non-discriminatory
    > position is to educate the people by showing them the nasty little
    creatures
    > (the Democrat hierarchy, spinmeisters and strategists) that will screw
    with
    > and damage anyone’s lives who can be taken advantage of.   The biggest
    anti-Democrat
    > program (that is, the current Democrat leadership), is a balanced,
    non-propagandist,
    > education program, that talks about reality and not the Democrat fiction.

    > Actually, the last vestiges of the lynch mob racist wing of the Democrat
    party
    > still resides in that party.   It is the infectious racist attitude that
    has morphed into
    > a different form, but the evil is still there.   The best way to fight
    such evil is to
    > appeal to the honor left in the people once they are aware of what the
    Democrat
    > party really is today.

    > John

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